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so

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it's about truth

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it's about it's about disclosure it's

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about transparency and if it means that

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that that i i don't get my my day in the

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spotlight then that's okay

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because it's not about that never was

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about that i didn't leave the department

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of defense because i wanted my day in

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the spotlight i left the department of

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defense ironically enough to finish the

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very mission they gave me in the first

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place i didn't ask for it i'm not a ufo

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guy not a ufologist i never have been i

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never will be i'm a counter terrorism

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and counter-espionage guy dude

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counterintelligence counterinsurgencies

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that's what i do and it just so happens

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that in 2008 i was asked to apply those

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same skill sets into the ufo community

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but

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i'm not a ufo guy and so for me it's all

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about the truth whether i'm hunting a

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terrorist or a spy or a ufo the bottom

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line is the truth is the truth

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i'm a counter-terrorism and

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counter-espionage guy dude

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counterintelligence counterinsurgencies

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that's what i do and it just so happens

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that in 2008 i was asked to apply those

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same skill sets into the ufo community

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the bottom line is the truth is the

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truth i'm a counter terrorism and

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counter espionage guy and that being

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counterintelligence counter insurgencies

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that's what i do and it just so happens

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that in 2008 i was asked to apply those

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same skill sets into the ufo community

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the bottom line is the truth is the

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truth it just so happens that in 2008 i

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was asked to apply those same skill sets

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into the ufo community the bottom line

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is the truth is the truth i'm a

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that's what i do the bottom line is the

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truth is the truth i'm a

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counterintelligence counter insurgencies

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that's what i do the bottom line is the

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truth is the truth it just so happens

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that in 2008 i was asked to apply those

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same skill sets into the ufo community

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the bottom line is the truth is a tree

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the central intelligence agency is set

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up to deceive that's what their job is

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in fact counterintelligence lieu

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counterintelligence means i have to lie

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you know that's my job

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so uh what is counterintelligence what

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are some of the methods that's something

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that the ufo field could study

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instead of people going off about did

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lou make a comment you know that doesn't

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go anywhere what is that going to do for

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you who cares about louis elizondo

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ultimately except as a pawn of the cia

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otherwise you know it's just dribble

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so um and how you know it could be

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anybody they could have gotten someone

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else instead in that program and dressed

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it's not a special kind of assignment

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that they got for lou i just think that

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he kind of fit what they were doing and

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they felt this is a guy who can pull it

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deceive another country about what my

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etc and i need them to believe that

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something is happening that's totally

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different what is actually happening

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so i need to create a counter narrative

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to the truth

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that's counterintelligence i need to lie

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um elizondo has a lot of experience he's

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a professional liar

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you you know expecting the truth from

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people like that or the central

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agents in general is craziness who

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whoever thought of such a thing

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and um you know so the way they've

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rolled it out and packaged it up and put

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a lot of money behind it and the media

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behind it yes but

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like you know we're all kind of

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graduating in our own awareness

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this is pretty obvious you know so this

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it's clear to me now that lou elizondo

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deceiving and manipulating the community

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i mean 100 he admitted to that on our

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interview friday by using

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puppet accounts to manipulate and

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so how can he trust someone who is going

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to go and create a secret account not

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only just create a secret account and

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post on it but he creates these in

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groups and out groups of people who are

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in on the secret and then he you know

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shares this special knowledge with them

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his critics you know his his

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we can't see what the tweets that he

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posted under these sock puppets anymore

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because they've been deleted but you

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know he made it seem like on the

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interview that he was just responding to

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people who are doing personal attacks on

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his family that's a load of bs you know

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there wasn't really any attacks on this

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family before this whole who's

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documentary started and that was

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after he deleted his sock puppet account

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he was using that account to

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attack people like mick west and stephen

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green street and

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you know rile people up and and stow

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division and

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to what end is really my question now

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you know why he says that his audience

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isn't ufo twitter if his audience isn't

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ufo twitter why does he have multiple

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socks off of accounts engaging with ufo

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twitter and doing all this nonsense like

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it just doesn't make any sense to me i'm

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thank you very much

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greetings and salutations friends and

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welcome back to the cabin

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uh

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i am broadcasting live from the

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apocalypse cabin

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some of you are aware that i generally

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don't like it when uh i

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am sort of forced to do a broadcast from

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the cabin the internet here tends to be

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somewhat wonky

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um and i apologize

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stream yard has been uh buggy very much

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lately

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and

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it usually when you add yourself to the

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stream it unmutes your microphone but

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lately it doesn't do that you have to do

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it manually so thank you uh to a kind

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viewer who's calling my cell phone to

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let me know hey

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we're improving here at least i didn't

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talk for a full 10 minutes before

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realizing that

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thought it was important enough to

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interrupt my cabin time here

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it also just so happens that i'm

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supposed to be building a porch onto the

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cabin today finally got rid of a big

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stump right in the way of the porch

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we burned it for a full on three

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weekends and it's gone

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but as luck would have it there was no

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one at the stone quarry place today to

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purchase the stone to make the patio for

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the porch so

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and i thought that this issues uh these

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issues that have been raised last night

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on twitter were important enough

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for those unaware

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uh yesterday john greenwald jr from the

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black vault did an excellent report a

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deep dive into mr lou elizano elizondo's

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ig complaint

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for those unaware

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louis elizondo felt that he was being

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treated unfairly or defamed or slandered

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or people were issuing incorrect

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some of you may recall that the pentagon

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was not the director of a program called

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that lou elizondo had no

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responsibilities uh related to this

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uh and again i'm paraphrasing i don't

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get sued so i gotta say that um

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so john from the black vault did an

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excellent presentation by the way i'm a

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terrible show host i will add it to the

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description of the video sixth sense

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could help me in the live chat success

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holding the peanut gallery down we gotta

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think of a better name for our live chat

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please do put a link to john greenwald's

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now there are some things that are very

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uh troubling to me in john greenwald's

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specifically related to the

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number and there are many of them of

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very inconsistent things

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between louisando's public statements on

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podcasts or wherever

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and his

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in this

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ig complaint letter

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things just don't add up and uh

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last night in fact i noticed that there

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was uh a statement from

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lou elizondo

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i have it right here

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lou alizondo is now saying on twitter

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uh and here i'm gonna share my screen

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this is his public twitter but we're

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still gonna cite fair use this is

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transformative work we're educating the

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public about this

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former pentagon official claiming to run

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a ufo program

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um louis elizondo

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and here is his statement on twitter

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louisando and i think this was made in

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and show

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of john greenwald from the blackfall

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um he says

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quote i was the director of atip

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it has been well documented i have been

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the subject of a campaign of defamatory

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disinformation by multiple parties

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and he says again thanks to

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uh now some of you may not be uh aware

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of that name todd mcmurtry but i was

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well aware of that name because i had

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closely followed the story of one kyle

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rittenhouse todd mcmurtry is actually

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the attorney

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who is representing kyle rittenhouse in

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suing all of those media outlets

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who um

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i don't even want to use the term i

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don't know what the proper term is

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slandered him

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reported factually inaccurate

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information on kyle writtenhouse

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whatever you're and by the way we don't

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do politics here so before anybody

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starts thinking that i'm a maga hat

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wearing right wing you know supporter

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here

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i uh am an independent i believe that

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both sides of the political aisle are

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filled with criminals and you don't get

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extra points for picking one side that

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is less criminal in your opinion than

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the other side

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that is criminal they're all criminals

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that's my personal opinion i still we

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stay out of politics here but it should

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be

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noted and and and

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for sure

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understood that todd mcmurtry is

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sort of known to be a very right-wing

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conservative

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you know

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sort of a person

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and he has made many statements that

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some people have claimed now he's a

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lawyer so i have to be very careful here

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some people have claimed that todd

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mcmurtry have made has made statements

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that could be considered either racist

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or transphobic etc

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i'm not going to comment on that it's

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just enough to say that people are

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saying that

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uh in fact i got three

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three separate messages uh

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from people before

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our current broadcast right now who said

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you have to share this tweet you have to

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share that tweet you have to share this

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that he said you have to share that that

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he said so todd mcmurtry is sort of a

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very controversial character

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um

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and

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has taken an awful lot of criticism for

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taking on cases like kyle rittenhouse

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now i do have to say that

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i don't believe that journalists should

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be sued

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unless

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they show malice in and get things 100

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factually wrong

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and then they create harm by getting

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things factually wrong or damage

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somebody's reputation cause them

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emotional distress because they're

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literally lying in the case of kyle

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rittenhouse it is well established that

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multiple multiple major media outlets

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reported completely factually inaccurate

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information about that young man

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regardless of what you think i i don't

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want to get into the the kyle

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rittenhouse thing

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so

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lou elizondo

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directly after john uh john's

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broadcast about the ig the deep dive

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says i was the director of atip it has

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been well documented i have been the

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subject of a campaign of defamatory

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disinformation by multiple parties and

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that is in line with the claims that he

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so todd mcmurtry

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says this

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and he is replying to black vault's post

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about his broadcast he says

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surely hope you don't defame lou

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elizondo

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it is well documented that he was the

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director of atip and any participation

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in a pl in a plan to cast doubt on that

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truth is a knowing effort to defame and

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so disinformation it's legally

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actionable

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uh and immediately twitter went nuts

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with this guy

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todd mcmurtry

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uh saying this directly to

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john from the black vault

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and uh there is quite uh the twitter

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flurry threads going on right now about

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this

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now i thought

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in first seeing this that this is very

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troubling uh

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i i

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all of you know that i am a big believer

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in free speech

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and also the fact that uh a lawyer

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apparently and we'll get into more

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details of that a lawyer apparently

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under the employment of louisando

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at least to many people including me

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here this looked like a legal threat

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uh he's he's warning him

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and one can argue

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you know

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whether this is

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could be considered a legal threat or

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not i'm not a lawyer haven't had uh the

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opportunity to send this to any other

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lawyers to say what do you think of this

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but

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people on twitter it should be said are

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saying this is a threat

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myself included originally i thought

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this is sort of a legal threat

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and that's very troubling especially

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considering that the person that this

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statement is directed at or this warning

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is directed at is john from the

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blackfault

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now

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heat praise on anyone

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but

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anybody that's been involved in ufos or

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listen to john from the black ball will

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understand that john is one of the most

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you know he's somebody that i i could

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learn a lot from

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you know he doesn't

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yell and scream he doesn't make

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statements without you know some sort of

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evidence and and it's important also

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that i would say this about john from

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the black fault that there was a man

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what much wiser than me that i got to

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know before his death

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a ufo investigator that we all know and

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loved by the name of stanton freeman

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and stan freeman had an excellent

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saying

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and and he impressed upon me the

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importance of this

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stan freeman would say be sure stephen

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that you have facts in hand before

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putting mouth and gear

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such an important thing i'm going to say

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it again stan freeman's statement is be

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sure to have facts in hand before

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putting mouth and gear

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now

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some people

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will know

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that i

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didn't always uh you know

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follow that advice very well there's

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been several times where i go

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popping off and yelling or like getting

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upset

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making statements without having facts

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in hand

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but if you go and

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listen to john from the black fault he's

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very professional he's very

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matter-of-fact he's very fact-based

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evidence-based research

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based and he's calm as a cute club

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member as he's doing a

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presentation and like i said i

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could learn i forgot at least could

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learn a lot about how the proper way you

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should do things is from john

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from the blackball so personally

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you guys know everybody knows this true

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seekers have

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been threatened to be sued many many

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times

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mostly due to our

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coverage of what i call the ufo

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um

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cosmic con artists

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you know we've covered fake psychics

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we've covered

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all of these sort of uh less than

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scrupulous people that i believe are

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running a con on the general public in

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order to make money

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so we here

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i i have been threatened to be sued a

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lot in fact i've sort of made it a joke

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now that when i get an angry lawyer

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letter threatening to sue me or the show

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i put i hang it up in my office and

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there's a bunch of them now

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so to be very honest my first thought

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was if lou elizondo or louis lozando's

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lawyer

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had said that to me

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i would understand it and so would most

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people because we do some nutty things

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here let's just be honest you know

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dressing up like a like nick pope and

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taking a lie detector test is just one

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recent example of that

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of some of the things that we do here

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and by the way

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uh i have consulted with attorneys on

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that issue that's considered a communi

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parody and it's very difficult to sue

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somebody for that maybe just maybe i'm

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not as crazy as some people think and i

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do that for a reason

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but my point here is

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that i

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the first thought when i read this was

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if lou elizondo or his lawyer had

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threatened me or let's not even call it

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a threat had made that statement towards

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me and my show

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i would understand it we do nutty things

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here i go off half-cocked and say things

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that i probably shouldn't say

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i'm not a well-trained i'm not a trained

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journalist or trained researcher it's

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it's taken me years to figure out the

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proper way to do things and that is to

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say things like in my opinion based on

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the facts that we have shown you

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i believe this that's the proper way to

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do things

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and what is so striking and shocking to

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me about what just happened is that john

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from the black vault is

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the guy that we should all emulate he

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does it the right way he shows you the

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facts he shows you the evidence and then

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he offers his opinion based on the facts

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and the evidence that he has

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shown you

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and certainly there should be

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no

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based on a guy doing it like john does

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it which i think he does it better than

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most people the right way

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i mean even in our introduction as much

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as i like dark journalists dark

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journalists is essentially

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claiming that lou elizondo is a cia

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disinformation agent

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and there's no

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verifiable facts to prove that so that's

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just somebody offering their opinion

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that could be considered actionable i

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guess or suit worthy more so than what

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john from the black vault just did

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and while we're on this subject you know

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maybe just maybe the second thing i

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thought is that this report put out by

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jonathan the black vault must have

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sincerely sincerely struck a nerve

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for lou elizado to have to go to twitter

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and i suppose alert his lawyer uh

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to make a statement or issue some sort

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of warning to john from the black fault

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by the way i i want to

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oh geez

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gosh

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impersonators a minion

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kind and generous five dollar super chat

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thank you for your kindness your

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generosity and your support of the show

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is much much appreciated

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uh so

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you know

570
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this also made me ask some questions the

571
00:25:09,510 --> 00:25:08,640
first question i had was

572
00:25:11,830 --> 00:25:09,520
all right

573
00:25:14,230 --> 00:25:11,840
i have to explain why i thought this

574
00:25:15,990 --> 00:25:14,240
first my first thought was is this guy

575
00:25:18,549 --> 00:25:16,000
even

576
00:25:20,149 --> 00:25:18,559
lou elizondo's lawyer or is just just

577
00:25:22,549 --> 00:25:20,159
some fan

578
00:25:23,590 --> 00:25:22,559
that happens to be a lawyer because by

579
00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:23,600
the way

580
00:25:27,350 --> 00:25:25,120
some of the people that have threatened

581
00:25:29,590 --> 00:25:27,360
to sue me here even going so far as to

582
00:25:32,070 --> 00:25:29,600
send me uh it's called a cease and

583
00:25:34,230 --> 00:25:32,080
desist letter but i call it an angry

584
00:25:36,230 --> 00:25:34,240
lawyer letter you know the lawyer will

585
00:25:39,190 --> 00:25:36,240
send you a letter says how dare you say

586
00:25:39,909 --> 00:25:39,200
this about my client in legalese though

587
00:25:48,630 --> 00:25:39,919
and

588
00:25:49,990 --> 00:25:48,640
word it to be very uh sort of uh

589
00:25:52,470 --> 00:25:50,000
aggressive

590
00:25:54,830 --> 00:25:52,480
warning you that if you don't shut up

591
00:25:57,909 --> 00:25:54,840
about their client there may be legal

592
00:25:59,909 --> 00:25:57,919
consequences however most of the people

593
00:26:01,190 --> 00:25:59,919
that have threatened to sue me even in

594
00:26:03,830 --> 00:26:01,200
writing

595
00:26:07,269 --> 00:26:03,840
in one case it turned out to be a very

596
00:26:08,950 --> 00:26:07,279
close friend of a fake psychic

597
00:26:11,590 --> 00:26:08,960
in other words

598
00:26:13,269 --> 00:26:11,600
this lawyer who did have a law degree

599
00:26:14,870 --> 00:26:13,279
but he was not even

600
00:26:17,110 --> 00:26:14,880
uh

601
00:26:18,870 --> 00:26:17,120
legally licensed to practice law in the

602
00:26:21,190 --> 00:26:18,880
state that he lived in he just happened

603
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:21,200
to have a law degree and be friends with

604
00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:24,960
a fake psychic that we busted here so

605
00:26:28,470 --> 00:26:27,039
you know my first thought was is this a

606
00:26:32,310 --> 00:26:28,480
real lawyer

607
00:26:34,789 --> 00:26:32,320
of yeah yeah so uh not only is he a real

608
00:26:37,190 --> 00:26:34,799
lawyer this man is a very well

609
00:26:40,230 --> 00:26:37,200
accomplished uh lawyer

610
00:26:43,269 --> 00:26:40,240
and uh takes on big cases like kyle

611
00:26:46,789 --> 00:26:43,279
rittenhouse so my next question was

612
00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:46,799
has lou elizondo actually paid him or

613
00:26:49,830 --> 00:26:48,159
retained him

614
00:26:53,029 --> 00:26:49,840
to represent him

615
00:26:56,310 --> 00:26:53,039
and so i reached out to this lawyer

616
00:26:58,149 --> 00:26:56,320
um todd v mcmurtry

617
00:27:00,070 --> 00:26:58,159
and and and i just want to thank him

618
00:27:01,430 --> 00:27:00,080
because he did have the courtesy to call

619
00:27:02,630 --> 00:27:01,440
me back i let him know i was on a

620
00:27:06,070 --> 00:27:02,640
deadline

621
00:27:08,470 --> 00:27:06,080
he gave me a statement and and this is

622
00:27:10,310 --> 00:27:08,480
the only on the record statement that he

623
00:27:11,909 --> 00:27:10,320
was willing to

624
00:27:13,909 --> 00:27:11,919
uh

625
00:27:17,909 --> 00:27:13,919
willing to share with me and i'm going

626
00:27:19,669 --> 00:27:17,919
to share my screen some people uh

627
00:27:22,310 --> 00:27:19,679
when i do these things sometimes when i

628
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:22,320
don't share the email somebody says how

629
00:27:25,990 --> 00:27:24,320
do we know you really got that email or

630
00:27:28,230 --> 00:27:26,000
you know

631
00:27:30,870 --> 00:27:28,240
it is what it is friends so uh i don't

632
00:27:33,830 --> 00:27:30,880
think he'll mind me

633
00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:33,840
he says for

634
00:27:39,269 --> 00:27:36,880
lou elizondo has retained me to provide

635
00:27:41,990 --> 00:27:39,279
legal advice about various

636
00:27:45,190 --> 00:27:42,000
commentators and public officials making

637
00:27:46,950 --> 00:27:45,200
false and defamatory statements this was

638
00:27:48,950 --> 00:27:46,960
the only thing that he would give me an

639
00:27:51,350 --> 00:27:48,960
on the record comment on

640
00:27:53,350 --> 00:27:51,360
so uh what does this mean this means

641
00:27:54,310 --> 00:27:53,360
that we do know now

642
00:27:56,870 --> 00:27:54,320
that

643
00:28:00,389 --> 00:27:56,880
this isn't just some random friend or

644
00:28:02,389 --> 00:28:00,399
ufo fan of lou elizondo this is a real

645
00:28:03,269 --> 00:28:02,399
attorney with a real office

646
00:28:05,350 --> 00:28:03,279
he's

647
00:28:08,230 --> 00:28:05,360
a well-known attorney that handles

648
00:28:09,110 --> 00:28:08,240
mostly i believe he told me 80 percent

649
00:28:13,029 --> 00:28:09,120
of his

650
00:28:14,870 --> 00:28:13,039
his work is defamation lawsuits

651
00:28:17,510 --> 00:28:14,880
so

652
00:28:18,789 --> 00:28:17,520
what this means is that louisando has

653
00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:18,799
employed

654
00:28:23,350 --> 00:28:21,919
uh an attorney who specializes in

655
00:28:24,630 --> 00:28:23,360
defamation

656
00:28:26,950 --> 00:28:24,640
to

657
00:28:28,870 --> 00:28:26,960
provide him with legal advice about

658
00:28:31,430 --> 00:28:28,880
various commentators and public

659
00:28:34,549 --> 00:28:31,440
officials making false and defamatory

660
00:28:41,190 --> 00:28:38,870
now what else i can say is that

661
00:28:42,830 --> 00:28:41,200
some of you may recall

662
00:28:47,190 --> 00:28:42,840
that corey

663
00:28:49,430 --> 00:28:47,200
goode uh well-known secret space program

664
00:28:51,029 --> 00:28:49,440
quote whistleblower who i believe is a

665
00:28:52,149 --> 00:28:51,039
fraud and a phony

666
00:28:54,789 --> 00:28:52,159
uh

667
00:28:57,909 --> 00:28:54,799
famously two two more than two years ago

668
00:29:00,710 --> 00:28:57,919
corey goode began suing everybody that

669
00:29:03,909 --> 00:29:00,720
had anything negative to say about him

670
00:29:05,430 --> 00:29:03,919
on the internet uh and by the way that

671
00:29:09,350 --> 00:29:05,440
case is still

672
00:29:11,269 --> 00:29:09,360
not been due to court it's been slowly

673
00:29:13,190 --> 00:29:11,279
winding its way through the court system

674
00:29:17,190 --> 00:29:13,200
for two plus years

675
00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:17,200
um with motions and things no one has

676
00:29:21,830 --> 00:29:19,360
uh no one has

677
00:29:25,830 --> 00:29:21,840
been actually been to court over cory

678
00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:25,840
good suing everybody but i wanted to to

679
00:29:28,870 --> 00:29:27,760
talk about the corey good situation

680
00:29:31,269 --> 00:29:28,880
because

681
00:29:32,789 --> 00:29:31,279
corey goode sued all of his critics

682
00:29:35,430 --> 00:29:32,799
commentators

683
00:29:36,630 --> 00:29:35,440
people making uh videos about how

684
00:29:38,549 --> 00:29:36,640
ridiculous

685
00:29:40,470 --> 00:29:38,559
the things that he talked about were or

686
00:29:41,750 --> 00:29:40,480
the statements that he made

687
00:29:43,350 --> 00:29:41,760
and

688
00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:43,360
whether cory good's

689
00:29:49,430 --> 00:29:46,240
claims have any basis in reality or not

690
00:29:52,470 --> 00:29:49,440
his legal claims i mean

691
00:29:55,269 --> 00:29:52,480
corey good suing a bunch of people had a

692
00:29:57,029 --> 00:29:55,279
chilling effect on free speech

693
00:29:58,230 --> 00:29:57,039
absolutely chilling effect on free

694
00:29:59,830 --> 00:29:58,240
speech

695
00:30:02,310 --> 00:29:59,840
and uh

696
00:30:04,070 --> 00:30:02,320
it's interesting to note that of all of

697
00:30:07,029 --> 00:30:04,080
corey good's critics

698
00:30:08,389 --> 00:30:07,039
that were sued i was one of them that

699
00:30:10,149 --> 00:30:08,399
was not sued

700
00:30:12,549 --> 00:30:10,159
and to be honest with you

701
00:30:15,029 --> 00:30:12,559
i was amazed that we weren't included in

702
00:30:16,070 --> 00:30:15,039
those lawsuits i was happy because i you

703
00:30:18,630 --> 00:30:16,080
know

704
00:30:21,510 --> 00:30:18,640
some of you may be aware of

705
00:30:23,190 --> 00:30:21,520
a man called c.w chanter who was cory

706
00:30:24,070 --> 00:30:23,200
good's biggest critic

707
00:30:25,029 --> 00:30:24,080
and

708
00:30:27,510 --> 00:30:25,039
even

709
00:30:29,750 --> 00:30:27,520
baseless

710
00:30:31,669 --> 00:30:29,760
uh you know

711
00:30:33,110 --> 00:30:31,679
lawsuit that is

712
00:30:35,669 --> 00:30:33,120
garbage

713
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:35,679
costs you money to defend and cw chairs

714
00:30:41,590 --> 00:30:38,240
so far in the cory good lawsuit last i

715
00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:41,600
heard has spent upwards of 15 000

716
00:30:46,230 --> 00:30:44,480
to defend against a frivolous lawsuit

717
00:30:48,549 --> 00:30:46,240
claiming that he somehow damaged a

718
00:30:50,149 --> 00:30:48,559
reputation of a guy that's running

719
00:30:52,310 --> 00:30:50,159
around telling everybody that he time

720
00:30:53,269 --> 00:30:52,320
traveled and fought reptilian aliens in

721
00:30:54,549 --> 00:30:53,279
space

722
00:30:57,029 --> 00:30:54,559
somehow

723
00:30:58,710 --> 00:30:57,039
this lawyer from new jersey gets sued

724
00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:58,720
because corey goode said

725
00:31:01,590 --> 00:31:00,080
that him

726
00:31:04,870 --> 00:31:01,600
talking about him on the internet and

727
00:31:06,789 --> 00:31:04,880
how ridiculous and stupid and childish

728
00:31:08,710 --> 00:31:06,799
corey good stories were

729
00:31:10,230 --> 00:31:08,720
somehow damaged him

730
00:31:11,269 --> 00:31:10,240
and now

731
00:31:16,470 --> 00:31:11,279
that

732
00:31:19,909 --> 00:31:16,480
dollars to defend himself from

733
00:31:21,110 --> 00:31:19,919
a lawsuit brought by corey goode

734
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:21,120
and

735
00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:23,440
that lawsuit had a chilling effect on

736
00:31:28,950 --> 00:31:25,840
free speech because there used to be

737
00:31:31,029 --> 00:31:28,960
many many people that would be very very

738
00:31:33,750 --> 00:31:31,039
critical of corey good but for the past

739
00:31:35,909 --> 00:31:33,760
few years since he launched his lawsuits

740
00:31:37,509 --> 00:31:35,919
on everyone including his former

741
00:31:39,750 --> 00:31:37,519
business partners

742
00:31:41,350 --> 00:31:39,760
you know

743
00:31:43,269 --> 00:31:41,360
the point is

744
00:31:44,389 --> 00:31:43,279
that since corey goode started suing

745
00:31:47,190 --> 00:31:44,399
everybody

746
00:31:49,909 --> 00:31:47,200
a lot of people most people

747
00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:49,919
stopped talking about corey good

748
00:31:53,590 --> 00:31:51,840
why they don't want to get drugged

749
00:31:56,389 --> 00:31:53,600
dragged into a frivolous lawsuit that

750
00:31:59,509 --> 00:31:56,399
they're going to have to spend 15 000

751
00:32:01,110 --> 00:31:59,519
defending even though it's bull

752
00:32:04,549 --> 00:32:01,120
and

753
00:32:07,269 --> 00:32:04,559
i suppose that some people are already

754
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:07,279
comparing louis elizondo now this is

755
00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:09,360
this is what's very problematic for lu

756
00:32:13,029 --> 00:32:10,960
elizondo

757
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:13,039
that people are now comparing

758
00:32:17,509 --> 00:32:15,360
lou elizondo to corey goode

759
00:32:20,149 --> 00:32:17,519
and i don't think that that's a

760
00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:20,159
comparison or you know i don't believe

761
00:32:25,269 --> 00:32:22,960
that blue elizondo wants to be lumped in

762
00:32:26,950 --> 00:32:25,279
with somebody like corey goode

763
00:32:29,509 --> 00:32:26,960
but what we see here

764
00:32:31,350 --> 00:32:29,519
is that lozando has retained legal

765
00:32:33,590 --> 00:32:31,360
counsel at least in louis elizondo he's

766
00:32:36,070 --> 00:32:33,600
got a really good real lawyer that

767
00:32:39,350 --> 00:32:36,080
specializes in defamation cases

768
00:32:41,190 --> 00:32:39,360
corey goode has a cult member friend of

769
00:32:43,029 --> 00:32:41,200
his who is

770
00:32:45,190 --> 00:32:43,039
representing him

771
00:32:47,830 --> 00:32:45,200
take from that what you will you know is

772
00:32:50,789 --> 00:32:47,840
she a real lawyer yeah but she doesn't

773
00:32:53,110 --> 00:32:50,799
specialize in defamation cases she

774
00:32:54,470 --> 00:32:53,120
certainly doesn't specialize in rico

775
00:32:55,750 --> 00:32:54,480
cases and

776
00:32:58,230 --> 00:32:55,760
i don't know cory good made some

777
00:33:01,110 --> 00:32:58,240
ridiculous rico argument that there was

778
00:33:04,789 --> 00:33:01,120
some grand conspiracy against him

779
00:33:06,630 --> 00:33:04,799
to uh you know damage his reputation

780
00:33:09,190 --> 00:33:06,640
i want to thank madam two swords for

781
00:33:10,870 --> 00:33:09,200
kind and generous what is that 249 super

782
00:33:12,549 --> 00:33:10,880
sticker thank you for your kindness your

783
00:33:14,470 --> 00:33:12,559
generosity and your support of the show

784
00:33:17,110 --> 00:33:14,480
much much appreciated

785
00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:17,120
so what we get here is

786
00:33:21,669 --> 00:33:18,320
is

787
00:33:24,070 --> 00:33:21,679
backfire

788
00:33:26,789 --> 00:33:24,080
but do i you know i'm kind of torn here

789
00:33:29,909 --> 00:33:26,799
because does lula zondo have the right

790
00:33:30,950 --> 00:33:29,919
to defend himself if people are

791
00:33:33,830 --> 00:33:30,960
uh

792
00:33:35,029 --> 00:33:33,840
you know damaging his reputation by

793
00:33:37,830 --> 00:33:35,039
saying

794
00:33:40,549 --> 00:33:37,840
factually inaccurate things yes i

795
00:33:41,909 --> 00:33:40,559
believe he does have that right however

796
00:33:43,190 --> 00:33:41,919
in the case of

797
00:33:45,029 --> 00:33:43,200
this

798
00:33:48,070 --> 00:33:45,039
john from the blackfall all john from

799
00:33:50,549 --> 00:33:48,080
the black ball did was read from his own

800
00:33:52,070 --> 00:33:50,559
louis alzando's own words

801
00:33:54,389 --> 00:33:52,080
and then point out that there was many

802
00:33:56,630 --> 00:33:54,399
many inconsistencies between

803
00:33:58,149 --> 00:33:56,640
the written ig complaint

804
00:34:00,310 --> 00:33:58,159
and

805
00:34:01,350 --> 00:34:00,320
past statements that lou elizondo has

806
00:34:05,110 --> 00:34:01,360
made

807
00:34:07,430 --> 00:34:05,120
on podcasts and media appearances

808
00:34:09,510 --> 00:34:07,440
that certainly to me is not suit worthy

809
00:34:11,990 --> 00:34:09,520
that to me is not

810
00:34:14,790 --> 00:34:12,000
you know slander or defamation

811
00:34:16,470 --> 00:34:14,800
it is john simply

812
00:34:18,869 --> 00:34:16,480
reading from

813
00:34:21,030 --> 00:34:18,879
those not his own words and then showing

814
00:34:22,310 --> 00:34:21,040
some largely what he did is he

815
00:34:23,430 --> 00:34:22,320
died from the ig complaint and then he

816
00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:23,440
showed some

817
00:34:25,750 --> 00:34:24,800
other source of well as i was saying

818
00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:25,760
some

819
00:34:30,950 --> 00:34:28,960
that contradicts what's in the ig room

820
00:34:32,829 --> 00:34:30,960
and it's also important

821
00:34:36,629 --> 00:34:32,839
to note that lu lozano is a public

822
00:34:38,310 --> 00:34:36,639
figure he made himself a public figure

823
00:34:39,349 --> 00:34:38,320
public figures you're allowed to talk

824
00:34:40,389 --> 00:34:39,359
about

825
00:34:41,990 --> 00:34:40,399
them you'll have to have an opinion on

826
00:34:43,510 --> 00:34:42,000
them

827
00:34:45,109 --> 00:34:43,520
lies their statements

828
00:34:48,550 --> 00:34:45,119
uh it's

829
00:34:50,230 --> 00:34:48,560
certainly newsworthy it's certainly uh

830
00:34:51,510 --> 00:34:50,240
allowable that you know i can talk about

831
00:34:53,430 --> 00:34:51,520
any public

832
00:34:55,589 --> 00:34:53,440
figure when you become a public figure

833
00:34:56,470 --> 00:34:55,599
the media may talk about

834
00:35:01,190 --> 00:34:56,480
you

835
00:35:05,230 --> 00:35:03,270
ondo get unders because people are

836
00:35:08,150 --> 00:35:05,240
pointing out that he's made many

837
00:35:09,829 --> 00:35:08,160
inconsistent statements now in so far as

838
00:35:11,910 --> 00:35:09,839
these statements um

839
00:35:14,069 --> 00:35:11,920
you know i'm going to offer my opinion

840
00:35:16,230 --> 00:35:14,079
and say that i have a problem i have a

841
00:35:18,310 --> 00:35:16,240
problem with lua elizondo saying it is

842
00:35:21,750 --> 00:35:18,320
well documented we'll go back to that

843
00:35:23,980 --> 00:35:21,760
statement because both the lawyer and he

844
00:35:25,910 --> 00:35:23,990
have said it is well documented

845
00:35:28,310 --> 00:35:25,920
[Music]

846
00:35:30,550 --> 00:35:28,320
this is the statement

847
00:35:33,190 --> 00:35:30,560
i was the director of atip it has been

848
00:35:34,870 --> 00:35:33,200
well documented

849
00:35:36,790 --> 00:35:34,880
i have been the subject of a campaign of

850
00:35:38,310 --> 00:35:36,800
defamatory disinformation by multiple

851
00:35:41,030 --> 00:35:38,320
parties and then the lawyer goes on to

852
00:35:43,349 --> 00:35:41,040
say it is well documented that he was

853
00:35:45,910 --> 00:35:43,359
the director of atip but

854
00:35:48,470 --> 00:35:45,920
here's the problem the pentagon says he

855
00:35:49,990 --> 00:35:48,480
was not the director of atip

856
00:35:53,109 --> 00:35:50,000
the pentagon says that he had no

857
00:35:56,069 --> 00:35:53,119
responsibilities related to ufos and

858
00:35:58,790 --> 00:35:56,079
even in elizondo's own words lately

859
00:36:00,470 --> 00:35:58,800
that would seem to be a true statement

860
00:36:03,510 --> 00:36:00,480
because in his ig

861
00:36:05,510 --> 00:36:03,520
complaint he he basically admits okay

862
00:36:07,190 --> 00:36:05,520
don't call it a it wasn't a program it

863
00:36:09,910 --> 00:36:07,200
was an activity

864
00:36:11,910 --> 00:36:09,920
and i'm going to be very careful here

865
00:36:14,310 --> 00:36:11,920
now that i know uh louis alexander's got

866
00:36:15,510 --> 00:36:14,320
a crackpot lawyer you know not crackpot

867
00:36:17,990 --> 00:36:15,520
a uh

868
00:36:20,069 --> 00:36:18,000
uh a bulldog i meant i really meant

869
00:36:23,510 --> 00:36:20,079
bulldog please don't sue me

870
00:36:24,870 --> 00:36:23,520
uh this guy todd mccurd me mcgirt tree

871
00:36:27,190 --> 00:36:24,880
regardless of what you think about his

872
00:36:28,390 --> 00:36:27,200
politics he's a bulldog of a lawyer this

873
00:36:29,750 --> 00:36:28,400
guy

874
00:36:32,310 --> 00:36:29,760
so

875
00:36:34,310 --> 00:36:32,320
uh what i will say is that my sense of

876
00:36:36,950 --> 00:36:34,320
what is really happening here

877
00:36:39,670 --> 00:36:36,960
is based on louisando's own statements

878
00:36:42,230 --> 00:36:39,680
based on facts released by the pentagon

879
00:36:46,069 --> 00:36:42,240
based on facts released in the book by

880
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:46,079
lakatsky the director of awsap

881
00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:49,200
i believe that louisando had no assigned

882
00:36:54,710 --> 00:36:52,079
responsibilities in so far as ufos he's

883
00:36:57,430 --> 00:36:54,720
even said that in his ig

884
00:36:59,270 --> 00:36:57,440
report he basically says

885
00:37:01,190 --> 00:36:59,280
okay

886
00:37:02,870 --> 00:37:01,200
i was told i was allowed to continue

887
00:37:11,109 --> 00:37:02,880
these activities as long as they didn't

888
00:37:14,390 --> 00:37:13,589
so what we get here

889
00:37:15,430 --> 00:37:14,400
is

890
00:37:16,870 --> 00:37:15,440
uh

891
00:37:20,550 --> 00:37:16,880
geez

892
00:37:24,950 --> 00:37:22,710
how do we get here we got here because

893
00:37:28,069 --> 00:37:24,960
of i believe because of factually

894
00:37:30,870 --> 00:37:28,079
inaccurate statements

895
00:37:33,670 --> 00:37:30,880
that were offered to media personalities

896
00:37:35,990 --> 00:37:33,680
like leslie keane and blumenthal and

897
00:37:37,990 --> 00:37:36,000
others who was the primary source of the

898
00:37:39,430 --> 00:37:38,000
new york times article that we now know

899
00:37:42,550 --> 00:37:39,440
was filled with

900
00:37:45,589 --> 00:37:42,560
a lot of factually inaccurate statements

901
00:37:46,710 --> 00:37:45,599
well the source was lou elizondo

902
00:37:49,349 --> 00:37:46,720
so

903
00:37:50,870 --> 00:37:49,359
you know lou alzado getting upset

904
00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:50,880
because people saying he wasn't the

905
00:37:54,310 --> 00:37:52,480
director of atip

906
00:37:56,470 --> 00:37:54,320
his own statements seemed to indicate

907
00:37:57,990 --> 00:37:56,480
that there was no program and there was

908
00:38:00,630 --> 00:37:58,000
no funding

909
00:38:03,910 --> 00:38:00,640
for the program and this was sort of an

910
00:38:05,190 --> 00:38:03,920
a hobby an extracurricular activity that

911
00:38:08,550 --> 00:38:05,200
he did

912
00:38:11,589 --> 00:38:08,560
that was not his primary or resp or

913
00:38:14,150 --> 00:38:11,599
uh assigned responsibility

914
00:38:16,790 --> 00:38:14,160
in other words nobody

915
00:38:19,030 --> 00:38:16,800
it wasn't lou elizondo's full-time job

916
00:38:20,630 --> 00:38:19,040
or responsibility to investigate ufos

917
00:38:22,710 --> 00:38:20,640
for the pentagon

918
00:38:25,510 --> 00:38:22,720
i think even he would admit that it was

919
00:38:28,150 --> 00:38:25,520
not his full-time job or responsibility

920
00:38:30,230 --> 00:38:28,160
to investigate ufos

921
00:38:31,589 --> 00:38:30,240
he had other responsibilities and this

922
00:38:33,829 --> 00:38:31,599
leads to

923
00:38:36,230 --> 00:38:33,839
you know other things that we can talk

924
00:38:38,470 --> 00:38:36,240
about and think about

925
00:38:39,670 --> 00:38:38,480
let's forget about ufos for a moment and

926
00:38:42,390 --> 00:38:39,680
let's use

927
00:38:44,069 --> 00:38:42,400
i don't know the jfk assassination for

928
00:38:47,910 --> 00:38:44,079
an example

929
00:38:49,829 --> 00:38:47,920
is it is it okay

930
00:38:52,550 --> 00:38:49,839
that somebody within the pentagon who is

931
00:38:54,550 --> 00:38:52,560
being paid to perform one job

932
00:38:57,349 --> 00:38:54,560
just suddenly starts

933
00:38:59,589 --> 00:38:57,359
using pentagon time and resources and

934
00:39:02,710 --> 00:38:59,599
their time and resources

935
00:39:04,630 --> 00:39:02,720
to investigate the murder of jfk in

936
00:39:08,390 --> 00:39:04,640
their

937
00:39:09,910 --> 00:39:08,400
or responsibility

938
00:39:12,069 --> 00:39:09,920
i don't think so i have a problem with

939
00:39:14,310 --> 00:39:12,079
that i'm a taxpayer and if somebody's a

940
00:39:17,270 --> 00:39:14,320
government employee for the pentagon and

941
00:39:19,430 --> 00:39:17,280
they're being paid to do a job they

942
00:39:21,750 --> 00:39:19,440
shouldn't be spending their time while

943
00:39:23,510 --> 00:39:21,760
they're being paid to do a certain job

944
00:39:26,310 --> 00:39:23,520
to do something else

945
00:39:27,829 --> 00:39:26,320
and it appears to me based on statements

946
00:39:29,829 --> 00:39:27,839
made by the pentagon and others

947
00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:29,839
including elizondo

948
00:39:32,390 --> 00:39:31,200
that

949
00:39:34,790 --> 00:39:32,400
he

950
00:39:37,750 --> 00:39:34,800
took upon himself i suppose to start

951
00:39:39,910 --> 00:39:37,760
investigating ufos or he was

952
00:39:42,470 --> 00:39:39,920
asked by somebody else according to the

953
00:39:44,550 --> 00:39:42,480
ig report to become the director of a

954
00:39:46,310 --> 00:39:44,560
program that didn't exist

955
00:39:49,349 --> 00:39:46,320
and this is where things get very very

956
00:39:50,950 --> 00:39:49,359
murky right why is everything so murky

957
00:39:52,710 --> 00:39:50,960
why can't we get a straight answer why

958
00:39:53,750 --> 00:39:52,720
can't somebody from the pentagon sit

959
00:39:55,510 --> 00:39:53,760
down

960
00:39:56,950 --> 00:39:55,520
with somebody preferably somebody like

961
00:39:58,630 --> 00:39:56,960
john from the black vault who was

962
00:40:01,270 --> 00:39:58,640
familiar with the inner government

963
00:40:02,310 --> 00:40:01,280
workings and give us straight answers

964
00:40:04,790 --> 00:40:02,320
was there

965
00:40:06,950 --> 00:40:04,800
a program called atip according to some

966
00:40:09,030 --> 00:40:06,960
statements no there wasn't according to

967
00:40:11,190 --> 00:40:09,040
the letter from senator harry reid yes

968
00:40:13,349 --> 00:40:11,200
there was and by the way on that subject

969
00:40:15,750 --> 00:40:13,359
of well-documented the only document

970
00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:15,760
that lou elizondo can offer us

971
00:40:19,670 --> 00:40:17,440
saying that he was the director of a

972
00:40:23,510 --> 00:40:19,680
program called atip is from senator

973
00:40:25,349 --> 00:40:23,520
harry reid who nobody trusts because

974
00:40:27,030 --> 00:40:25,359
well for several reasons nobody trusts

975
00:40:28,550 --> 00:40:27,040
harry reid one of the big reasons you

976
00:40:30,309 --> 00:40:28,560
can't trust harry reid is he's been

977
00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:30,319
caught lying before

978
00:40:34,550 --> 00:40:33,040
senators are not immune to lying

979
00:40:36,950 --> 00:40:34,560
you know there's a there's so many

980
00:40:38,630 --> 00:40:36,960
problems here with this story and it

981
00:40:39,589 --> 00:40:38,640
gets so murky

982
00:40:40,470 --> 00:40:39,599
uh

983
00:40:42,710 --> 00:40:40,480
you know

984
00:40:45,430 --> 00:40:42,720
senator harry reid got caught lying

985
00:40:47,270 --> 00:40:45,440
about mitt romney and his tax returns he

986
00:40:49,030 --> 00:40:47,280
got caught dead the rights issuing

987
00:40:51,670 --> 00:40:49,040
factually inaccurate statements about

988
00:40:54,069 --> 00:40:51,680
mitt romney

989
00:40:55,270 --> 00:40:54,079
this is very very problematic

990
00:40:58,630 --> 00:40:55,280
so for

991
00:41:00,790 --> 00:40:58,640
and and by the way harry reid was deeply

992
00:41:03,750 --> 00:41:00,800
involved in the creation of ossap and

993
00:41:07,430 --> 00:41:03,760
giving 22 million dollars to his close

994
00:41:09,589 --> 00:41:07,440
friend and political donor bob bigelow

995
00:41:11,990 --> 00:41:09,599
so part of me if i need a little more

996
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:12,000
proof than somebody that's involved in

997
00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:14,720
what i believe is some sort of scam to

998
00:41:18,390 --> 00:41:16,560
defraud the government out of 22 million

999
00:41:19,589 --> 00:41:18,400
dollars i'm talking specifically about

1000
00:41:22,950 --> 00:41:19,599
osap

1001
00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:22,960
do me or any other taxpayer want 22

1002
00:41:26,470 --> 00:41:25,280
million dollars of our money going to

1003
00:41:28,309 --> 00:41:26,480
investigate

1004
00:41:30,230 --> 00:41:28,319
dino beavers

1005
00:41:32,630 --> 00:41:30,240
stargates

1006
00:41:36,069 --> 00:41:32,640
werewolves

1007
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:36,079
ghosts goblins and demons on some ranch

1008
00:41:39,270 --> 00:41:38,240
in the middle of nowhere no

1009
00:41:40,790 --> 00:41:39,280
no

1010
00:41:42,950 --> 00:41:40,800
and in my opinion

1011
00:41:44,630 --> 00:41:42,960
that's a waste of 22 million dollars of

1012
00:41:47,190 --> 00:41:44,640
taxpayer dollars

1013
00:41:50,309 --> 00:41:47,200
harry reid is the person that initiated

1014
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:50,319
that and was in on that so for

1015
00:41:54,309 --> 00:41:52,240
lu elizondo to say it's so well

1016
00:41:56,230 --> 00:41:54,319
documented it's well documented i was

1017
00:41:58,150 --> 00:41:56,240
the leader of atip and you know people

1018
00:41:59,270 --> 00:41:58,160
on twitter are saying congratulations

1019
00:42:01,030 --> 00:41:59,280
including me

1020
00:42:04,150 --> 00:42:01,040
we're saying congratulations you were

1021
00:42:06,710 --> 00:42:04,160
the director of an imaginary program

1022
00:42:07,990 --> 00:42:06,720
in the pentagon it's not a real program

1023
00:42:09,750 --> 00:42:08,000
and you know i think one of the other

1024
00:42:12,950 --> 00:42:09,760
things that's very problematic here for

1025
00:42:14,950 --> 00:42:12,960
louis lozando is that he has

1026
00:42:17,510 --> 00:42:14,960
he has a british counterpart

1027
00:42:19,270 --> 00:42:17,520
and and that would be nick pope and his

1028
00:42:21,510 --> 00:42:19,280
british counterpart

1029
00:42:24,550 --> 00:42:21,520
uh nick pope claimed the same thing that

1030
00:42:26,309 --> 00:42:24,560
he ran a british government ufo program

1031
00:42:28,870 --> 00:42:26,319
now in the case of nick pope we can

1032
00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:28,880
clearly establish that nick pope

1033
00:42:34,390 --> 00:42:31,440
highly embellished or just lied

1034
00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:34,400
he did not run nick pope did not run any

1035
00:42:38,630 --> 00:42:36,480
british ufo program

1036
00:42:41,349 --> 00:42:38,640
no he was a secretary

1037
00:42:42,710 --> 00:42:41,359
who worked for the ministry of defense

1038
00:42:44,870 --> 00:42:42,720
so

1039
00:42:45,910 --> 00:42:44,880
part of me thinks that louisando may be

1040
00:42:47,430 --> 00:42:45,920
getting

1041
00:42:50,950 --> 00:42:47,440
an unfair

1042
00:42:53,270 --> 00:42:50,960
uh bias placed against him

1043
00:42:55,349 --> 00:42:53,280
partially due to nick pope his british

1044
00:42:58,390 --> 00:42:55,359
counterpart

1045
00:42:59,829 --> 00:42:58,400
pulling what many think are the same

1046
00:43:01,670 --> 00:42:59,839
is the same thing

1047
00:43:04,390 --> 00:43:01,680
lying about a government job that you

1048
00:43:07,270 --> 00:43:04,400
never had in order to profit from the

1049
00:43:10,309 --> 00:43:07,280
ufo community many people think

1050
00:43:12,870 --> 00:43:10,319
that lou elizondo did the same thing

1051
00:43:15,030 --> 00:43:12,880
that nick pope has been pretty much dead

1052
00:43:16,390 --> 00:43:15,040
to rights caught doing which is to over

1053
00:43:18,790 --> 00:43:16,400
embellish

1054
00:43:21,510 --> 00:43:18,800
make things up claim that you were more

1055
00:43:23,270 --> 00:43:21,520
important than you were claim you ran or

1056
00:43:25,589 --> 00:43:23,280
were nick pope said he was the director

1057
00:43:27,030 --> 00:43:25,599
of a british ufo program we know that to

1058
00:43:28,870 --> 00:43:27,040
be 100

1059
00:43:30,470 --> 00:43:28,880
factually false

1060
00:43:32,550 --> 00:43:30,480
right now

1061
00:43:34,710 --> 00:43:32,560
uh i'm going to share some of the things

1062
00:43:36,710 --> 00:43:34,720
from twitter as well

1063
00:43:38,710 --> 00:43:36,720
facts or facts don't worry about him

1064
00:43:41,670 --> 00:43:38,720
carry on my fish with a kind and

1065
00:43:43,589 --> 00:43:41,680
generous uh is that two dollars

1066
00:43:45,510 --> 00:43:43,599
yes i believe so you guys know this i

1067
00:43:47,349 --> 00:43:45,520
hate doing shows on a laptop i'm a bit

1068
00:43:49,910 --> 00:43:47,359
visually impaired so you'll have to

1069
00:43:52,069 --> 00:43:49,920
forgive me and excuse me if i can't read

1070
00:43:54,550 --> 00:43:52,079
everything um we're going to go to

1071
00:43:56,870 --> 00:43:54,560
twitter but before we do actually i have

1072
00:43:58,630 --> 00:43:56,880
a statement uh from john greenwald

1073
00:44:00,550 --> 00:43:58,640
because i reached out to him

1074
00:44:01,990 --> 00:44:00,560
saying hey you know

1075
00:44:03,349 --> 00:44:02,000
what's going on here and what do you

1076
00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:03,359
think about this

1077
00:44:07,349 --> 00:44:06,000
uh and i have a statement from john

1078
00:44:09,670 --> 00:44:07,359
greenwald

1079
00:44:17,750 --> 00:44:09,680
uh one second it's going to make this

1080
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,950
okay

1081
00:44:24,870 --> 00:44:22,390
all right so in a statement john

1082
00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:24,880
greenwald said in my view i did not

1083
00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:27,280
defame anyone and to float those words

1084
00:44:31,030 --> 00:44:28,960
is not only telling but incredibly

1085
00:44:32,309 --> 00:44:31,040
damaged to the entire investigative

1086
00:44:35,030 --> 00:44:32,319
process

1087
00:44:38,710 --> 00:44:35,040
we are all on an individual journey our

1088
00:44:41,349 --> 00:44:38,720
own each of us to discover the truth

1089
00:44:43,750 --> 00:44:41,359
whatever that may be my path took me to

1090
00:44:45,589 --> 00:44:43,760
vet the claims of a former taxpayer paid

1091
00:44:47,910 --> 00:44:45,599
government employee who made claims

1092
00:44:49,750 --> 00:44:47,920
about a taxpayer-funded program or

1093
00:44:51,430 --> 00:44:49,760
effort

1094
00:44:53,030 --> 00:44:51,440
john greenwald goes on to say what

1095
00:44:55,349 --> 00:44:53,040
country do i live in

1096
00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:55,359
if i can't question those claims what

1097
00:44:59,190 --> 00:44:56,960
country do i live in

1098
00:45:01,510 --> 00:44:59,200
where it is wrong to use verifiable

1099
00:45:04,390 --> 00:45:01,520
evidence vetting the claims of someone i

1100
00:45:05,910 --> 00:45:04,400
once paid for through my taxes to have a

1101
00:45:07,750 --> 00:45:05,920
job

1102
00:45:10,069 --> 00:45:07,760
what country do i live in where my

1103
00:45:11,829 --> 00:45:10,079
efforts to bring as much verifiable

1104
00:45:14,069 --> 00:45:11,839
evidence to the table along with

1105
00:45:15,270 --> 00:45:14,079
properly labeling and expressing my

1106
00:45:17,430 --> 00:45:15,280
opinion

1107
00:45:20,950 --> 00:45:17,440
is a legal threat worthy failed or

1108
00:45:23,430 --> 00:45:20,960
otherwise to be thrown at me on twitter

1109
00:45:26,790 --> 00:45:23,440
the tweets from an attorney and louis

1110
00:45:29,109 --> 00:45:26,800
elizondo were posted online to rile up a

1111
00:45:31,589 --> 00:45:29,119
digital mob before my video was even

1112
00:45:33,670 --> 00:45:31,599
done playing okay so they did post it

1113
00:45:34,790 --> 00:45:33,680
during his broadcast

1114
00:45:37,430 --> 00:45:34,800
the result

1115
00:45:40,550 --> 00:45:37,440
was a digital lynching by a small but

1116
00:45:42,950 --> 00:45:40,560
noisy group of mr elizondo's supporters

1117
00:45:44,790 --> 00:45:42,960
anyone that has a following and has

1118
00:45:47,910 --> 00:45:44,800
followers should be careful when posting

1119
00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:47,920
such legal jargon and veiled accusations

1120
00:45:52,550 --> 00:45:49,760
the result is much more damaging than

1121
00:45:53,670 --> 00:45:52,560
one might think but sadly maybe that was

1122
00:45:56,069 --> 00:45:53,680
the intent

1123
00:45:58,550 --> 00:45:56,079
bottom line i did nothing wrong i

1124
00:46:01,190 --> 00:45:58,560
exercised my freedom to information i

1125
00:46:04,030 --> 00:46:01,200
exercised my right to express my opinion

1126
00:46:06,230 --> 00:46:04,040
i vetted taxpayer paid people and

1127
00:46:07,510 --> 00:46:06,240
taxpayer-funded programs and posed

1128
00:46:10,069 --> 00:46:07,520
questions

1129
00:46:11,670 --> 00:46:10,079
that i would 100 percent defend under

1130
00:46:14,069 --> 00:46:11,680
oath in a courtroom

1131
00:46:16,710 --> 00:46:14,079
none of that is in the legal definition

1132
00:46:19,109 --> 00:46:16,720
of defamation or sue worthy

1133
00:46:21,430 --> 00:46:19,119
it's not even threat worthy anyone who

1134
00:46:22,950 --> 00:46:21,440
decides to talk that defamation talk

1135
00:46:24,710 --> 00:46:22,960
about what i did

1136
00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:24,720
is telling the general public more about

1137
00:46:29,910 --> 00:46:27,680
themselves than they are about me

1138
00:46:32,069 --> 00:46:29,920
and again i i think even that is very

1139
00:46:33,430 --> 00:46:32,079
well said and well spoken

1140
00:46:34,950 --> 00:46:33,440
um

1141
00:46:37,990 --> 00:46:34,960
so

1142
00:46:39,990 --> 00:46:38,000
what we have here is louis zondo uh i

1143
00:46:42,390 --> 00:46:40,000
think he's just butt hurt and he doesn't

1144
00:46:45,109 --> 00:46:42,400
like people digging into his claims and

1145
00:46:47,109 --> 00:46:45,119
pointing out the inconsistencies but

1146
00:46:51,109 --> 00:46:47,119
that to me i agree with john that's not

1147
00:46:55,349 --> 00:46:53,270
we one can argue

1148
00:46:57,030 --> 00:46:55,359
uh that

1149
00:46:59,510 --> 00:46:57,040
people should be allowed if you're

1150
00:47:02,589 --> 00:46:59,520
making fantastical claims like you were

1151
00:47:05,109 --> 00:47:02,599
the director of a 22 million dollar

1152
00:47:07,030 --> 00:47:05,119
taxpayer-funded program and then it

1153
00:47:09,349 --> 00:47:07,040
turns out no you weren't people were

1154
00:47:10,630 --> 00:47:09,359
allowed to talk about that

1155
00:47:12,790 --> 00:47:10,640
and by the way

1156
00:47:14,390 --> 00:47:12,800
i still think it's murky did he run a

1157
00:47:16,790 --> 00:47:14,400
program well

1158
00:47:17,990 --> 00:47:16,800
apparently there was no program there

1159
00:47:21,910 --> 00:47:18,000
was no

1160
00:47:24,950 --> 00:47:21,920
pentagon with the assigned

1161
00:47:27,349 --> 00:47:24,960
responsibilities of this program there

1162
00:47:29,430 --> 00:47:27,359
was no funding but then later we see in

1163
00:47:32,309 --> 00:47:29,440
the ig complaint i believe that there

1164
00:47:34,630 --> 00:47:32,319
was no funding but in the ig complaint

1165
00:47:36,630 --> 00:47:34,640
little zondo claims that they got 10

1166
00:47:39,109 --> 00:47:36,640
million in funding but then somebody

1167
00:47:40,950 --> 00:47:39,119
else sucked away that funding somehow

1168
00:47:44,150 --> 00:47:40,960
apparently

1169
00:47:46,069 --> 00:47:44,160
like i said all this is very murky and

1170
00:47:47,670 --> 00:47:46,079
and i don't understand why we can't get

1171
00:47:50,309 --> 00:47:47,680
a straight answer i also don't

1172
00:47:53,349 --> 00:47:50,319
understand why lou alizando can't

1173
00:47:55,910 --> 00:47:53,359
uh you know tells the truth about what

1174
00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:55,920
government agency he now works for

1175
00:48:01,030 --> 00:47:59,280
and and i get it maybe he has an nda

1176
00:48:02,710 --> 00:48:01,040
but he should be able to

1177
00:48:04,150 --> 00:48:02,720
tell us who he's a government contractor

1178
00:48:05,549 --> 00:48:04,160
for

1179
00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:05,559
i believe that he's claiming that he's a

1180
00:48:09,030 --> 00:48:08,160
government contractor first for space

1181
00:48:11,589 --> 00:48:09,040
for

1182
00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:11,599
course but i've reached out

1183
00:48:15,109 --> 00:48:12,960
for comment to space force and so is

1184
00:48:16,069 --> 00:48:15,119
john uh

1185
00:48:17,109 --> 00:48:16,079
greenville for the platform and they

1186
00:48:20,870 --> 00:48:17,119
won't

1187
00:48:24,069 --> 00:48:20,880
comment on whether luella's underwater

1188
00:48:25,270 --> 00:48:24,079
why we can't know

1189
00:48:26,710 --> 00:48:25,280
if he's telling the truth about being a

1190
00:48:27,910 --> 00:48:26,720
contractor

1191
00:48:29,430 --> 00:48:27,920
space force

1192
00:48:31,510 --> 00:48:29,440
i i don't understand any of this and

1193
00:48:33,270 --> 00:48:31,520
then like i said when you get

1194
00:48:35,589 --> 00:48:33,280
into the situation with these government

1195
00:48:37,349 --> 00:48:35,599
former government people

1196
00:48:39,109 --> 00:48:37,359
everything gets incredibly murky why is

1197
00:48:40,790 --> 00:48:39,119
it so murky why can't

1198
00:48:42,790 --> 00:48:40,800
we get a straight answer from the

1199
00:48:44,069 --> 00:48:42,800
government is little alexander employed

1200
00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:44,079
by

1201
00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:46,160
you as a contractor and if so what

1202
00:48:50,069 --> 00:48:48,960
agency is he working for

1203
00:48:52,950 --> 00:48:50,079
and

1204
00:48:55,349 --> 00:48:52,960
we can we can get into

1205
00:48:57,430 --> 00:48:55,359
some of the other things too

1206
00:48:59,030 --> 00:48:57,440
and by the way again because this guy's

1207
00:49:00,150 --> 00:48:59,040
got a lawyer i have to say this is my

1208
00:49:06,150 --> 00:49:00,160
opinion

1209
00:49:08,470 --> 00:49:06,160
uh you know he filled out those forms to

1210
00:49:10,069 --> 00:49:08,480
get those three videos released but

1211
00:49:12,470 --> 00:49:10,079
those three videos were supposed to be

1212
00:49:14,950 --> 00:49:12,480
for internal use only they were never

1213
00:49:16,790 --> 00:49:14,960
supposed to go to the media

1214
00:49:19,430 --> 00:49:16,800
they were in his

1215
00:49:22,069 --> 00:49:19,440
you know care or possession and somehow

1216
00:49:24,790 --> 00:49:22,079
they get blasted all over the media

1217
00:49:27,030 --> 00:49:24,800
there's a whole investigation going on

1218
00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:27,040
about

1219
00:49:30,390 --> 00:49:28,160
how

1220
00:49:32,790 --> 00:49:30,400
those materials that were never intended

1221
00:49:35,349 --> 00:49:32,800
to be released to the public

1222
00:49:37,990 --> 00:49:35,359
were released to the media and we know

1223
00:49:40,150 --> 00:49:38,000
how they were released somebody

1224
00:49:41,589 --> 00:49:40,160
met chris mellon in the pentagon parking

1225
00:49:43,750 --> 00:49:41,599
lot and gave them to him and then he

1226
00:49:46,950 --> 00:49:43,760
leaked them to the new york times this

1227
00:49:48,870 --> 00:49:46,960
is extremely problematic and hal

1228
00:49:50,470 --> 00:49:48,880
is a guy who was involved in that

1229
00:49:51,910 --> 00:49:50,480
situation

1230
00:49:54,309 --> 00:49:51,920
not understanding that there's going to

1231
00:49:56,710 --> 00:49:54,319
be investigation about that it doesn't

1232
00:49:58,870 --> 00:49:56,720
make any sense and it also doesn't make

1233
00:50:00,630 --> 00:49:58,880
any sense that lou elizondo would be

1234
00:50:02,790 --> 00:50:00,640
able to continue employment with the

1235
00:50:04,870 --> 00:50:02,800
government after being involved in

1236
00:50:06,990 --> 00:50:04,880
something like that but again i'm the

1237
00:50:09,190 --> 00:50:07,000
lawyer and i'm no expert in the

1238
00:50:11,510 --> 00:50:09,200
declassification of classified

1239
00:50:13,670 --> 00:50:11,520
information including videos

1240
00:50:15,750 --> 00:50:13,680
ufo john doe is here and says hey steven

1241
00:50:18,950 --> 00:50:15,760
great to catch a show this week

1242
00:50:21,190 --> 00:50:18,960
uh as good show keep keep kicking down

1243
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:21,200
the doors right yeah greenwald should

1244
00:50:24,950 --> 00:50:23,280
come on sometime lou is desperate and

1245
00:50:27,430 --> 00:50:24,960
making noise that's what a lot of people

1246
00:50:28,790 --> 00:50:27,440
think this is an act of desperation

1247
00:50:30,790 --> 00:50:28,800
you know um

1248
00:50:32,870 --> 00:50:30,800
originally i believe that his book was

1249
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:32,880
supposed to come out in april

1250
00:50:37,510 --> 00:50:34,480
but it would appear

1251
00:50:38,950 --> 00:50:37,520
that uh that was

1252
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:38,960
delayed

1253
00:50:43,270 --> 00:50:40,480
um

1254
00:50:45,750 --> 00:50:43,280
and i don't know why that is and some

1255
00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:45,760
people are speculating that he's just

1256
00:50:50,069 --> 00:50:47,760
trying to salvage whatever he can and

1257
00:50:52,069 --> 00:50:50,079
muddy these waters so that he can

1258
00:50:53,190 --> 00:50:52,079
continue to make money from the ufo

1259
00:50:55,829 --> 00:50:53,200
community

1260
00:50:59,589 --> 00:50:55,839
um i'm not sure what i think about that

1261
00:51:01,750 --> 00:50:59,599
uh you know i would i hire him to know

1262
00:51:02,950 --> 00:51:01,760
i wouldn't hire him to speak about ufos

1263
00:51:05,190 --> 00:51:02,960
because of his

1264
00:51:07,910 --> 00:51:05,200
his inconsistent statements and we don't

1265
00:51:10,230 --> 00:51:07,920
really know what he actually did that

1266
00:51:12,069 --> 00:51:10,240
involved ufos at the pentagon we know

1267
00:51:13,589 --> 00:51:12,079
what he says he did get us some

1268
00:51:14,870 --> 00:51:13,599
documents and i've said this before i'm

1269
00:51:17,349 --> 00:51:14,880
going to say it again

1270
00:51:19,829 --> 00:51:17,359
that you know if you investigate if you

1271
00:51:21,589 --> 00:51:19,839
run if you're the director of an entire

1272
00:51:23,670 --> 00:51:21,599
program for the pentagon there would be

1273
00:51:26,230 --> 00:51:23,680
a mountain of paperwork about the

1274
00:51:29,829 --> 00:51:26,240
program about you about your employees

1275
00:51:33,349 --> 00:51:29,839
about the funding about oversight

1276
00:51:35,670 --> 00:51:33,359
about classification processes about

1277
00:51:37,910 --> 00:51:35,680
the reports you're generating the the

1278
00:51:40,069 --> 00:51:37,920
investigations you you're underway the

1279
00:51:42,309 --> 00:51:40,079
witnesses that you interviewed there is

1280
00:51:44,790 --> 00:51:42,319
nothing there is nothing there's one

1281
00:51:46,870 --> 00:51:44,800
page a page from harry reid saying that

1282
00:51:49,670 --> 00:51:46,880
this guy ran a government program

1283
00:51:52,950 --> 00:51:49,680
that's it and harry reid was in on it so

1284
00:51:54,710 --> 00:51:52,960
pardon me if i don't trust harry reid

1285
00:51:57,670 --> 00:51:54,720
you know uh

1286
00:51:59,990 --> 00:51:57,680
but i i i want to be sure that we're

1287
00:52:01,270 --> 00:52:00,000
very clear in that

1288
00:52:03,270 --> 00:52:01,280
uh

1289
00:52:06,150 --> 00:52:03,280
you know i did talk to this lawyer who

1290
00:52:06,870 --> 00:52:06,160
basically said yes i've been retained

1291
00:52:10,470 --> 00:52:06,880
and

1292
00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:10,480
that you will give me

1293
00:52:15,430 --> 00:52:12,880
mr fish with a kind of generous two

1294
00:52:18,150 --> 00:52:15,440
pounds says he wants them ufo dollars

1295
00:52:20,309 --> 00:52:18,160
and he has ufo disease yeah a lot of

1296
00:52:22,309 --> 00:52:20,319
people think he wants the ufo money you

1297
00:52:24,950 --> 00:52:22,319
know what can we say

1298
00:52:26,630 --> 00:52:24,960
um there's a lot of money people people

1299
00:52:28,870 --> 00:52:26,640
don't understand there's a ton of money

1300
00:52:31,270 --> 00:52:28,880
to be made

1301
00:52:32,710 --> 00:52:31,280
you know and and also

1302
00:52:34,309 --> 00:52:32,720
one of the troubling things about louis

1303
00:52:36,069 --> 00:52:34,319
lozando still being a government

1304
00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:36,079
contractor is he was also involved in

1305
00:52:42,309 --> 00:52:37,520
ttsa

1306
00:52:44,390 --> 00:52:42,319
they were going to build a revolutionary

1307
00:52:46,309 --> 00:52:44,400
spaceship with a revolutionary power

1308
00:52:49,990 --> 00:52:46,319
source that would change the world they

1309
00:52:52,710 --> 00:52:50,000
basically promised investors hover cars

1310
00:52:54,870 --> 00:52:52,720
and then didn't deliver on any of that

1311
00:52:56,870 --> 00:52:54,880
spent all the investors money

1312
00:52:58,710 --> 00:52:56,880
no investor to my knowledge has ever

1313
00:53:00,549 --> 00:52:58,720
gotten any money back

1314
00:53:03,030 --> 00:53:00,559
that's problematic

1315
00:53:05,349 --> 00:53:03,040
and uh you know again we get this

1316
00:53:06,390 --> 00:53:05,359
cult-like atmosphere surrounding this

1317
00:53:10,230 --> 00:53:06,400
guy

1318
00:53:14,390 --> 00:53:10,240
why is there such a cult-like atmosphere

1319
00:53:17,670 --> 00:53:14,400
why are you not allowed to uh question

1320
00:53:19,829 --> 00:53:17,680
the situation right you can't question

1321
00:53:22,630 --> 00:53:19,839
him about ttsa you can't

1322
00:53:28,549 --> 00:53:22,640
he brings the nda around right

1323
00:53:35,270 --> 00:53:31,109
50 cents

1324
00:53:38,950 --> 00:53:37,109
yeah and my phone keeps ringing and i'm

1325
00:53:41,829 --> 00:53:38,960
not quite sure why because i'm sure i'm

1326
00:53:42,870 --> 00:53:41,839
not muted uh i hope that's not anything

1327
00:53:43,670 --> 00:53:42,880
important

1328
00:53:45,910 --> 00:53:43,680
uh

1329
00:53:48,150 --> 00:53:45,920
it's in the other room so

1330
00:53:50,950 --> 00:53:48,160
look this is all i've really got for you

1331
00:53:52,230 --> 00:53:50,960
but i didn't share uh

1332
00:53:55,270 --> 00:53:52,240
interestingly

1333
00:53:57,829 --> 00:53:55,280
john greenwald and others have uh or i'm

1334
00:53:59,670 --> 00:53:57,839
sorry stephen greenstreet and others

1335
00:54:01,829 --> 00:53:59,680
have taken to twitter

1336
00:54:03,829 --> 00:54:01,839
uh in defense and i'm glad to see that

1337
00:54:06,870 --> 00:54:03,839
there's so much defense of john

1338
00:54:09,990 --> 00:54:06,880
greenwald what i do see is

1339
00:54:11,910 --> 00:54:10,000
um we've gotten

1340
00:54:13,990 --> 00:54:11,920
let's see

1341
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:14,000
stephen green street in defense of him

1342
00:54:17,750 --> 00:54:15,760
people are also saying that they're

1343
00:54:21,430 --> 00:54:17,760
willing to contribute

1344
00:54:24,870 --> 00:54:21,440
to a gofundme or a paypal you know

1345
00:54:28,710 --> 00:54:24,880
to crowdfund a legal defense for john

1346
00:54:30,470 --> 00:54:28,720
from the blackfall and that's very

1347
00:54:32,470 --> 00:54:30,480
that's very good to see

1348
00:54:34,950 --> 00:54:32,480
people are actually willing to put their

1349
00:54:36,069 --> 00:54:34,960
money where their mouth is and and

1350
00:54:38,390 --> 00:54:36,079
defend

1351
00:54:39,589 --> 00:54:38,400
john greenwald's right to report on this

1352
00:54:41,430 --> 00:54:39,599
stuff

1353
00:54:43,750 --> 00:54:41,440
um

1354
00:54:45,349 --> 00:54:43,760
again you know most of me is just

1355
00:54:46,870 --> 00:54:45,359
surprised that it's john greenwald

1356
00:54:50,470 --> 00:54:46,880
that's getting

1357
00:54:53,829 --> 00:54:50,480
getting this stuff leveled at him

1358
00:54:56,069 --> 00:54:53,839
okay so we have who is axelrod i'm sorry

1359
00:54:57,750 --> 00:54:56,079
i gotta make this bigger i can't i can't

1360
00:54:59,910 --> 00:54:57,760
read this

1361
00:55:01,270 --> 00:54:59,920
who is axelrod go kick brock's on

1362
00:55:04,069 --> 00:55:01,280
twitter by the way she's been running

1363
00:55:05,910 --> 00:55:04,079
some spaces that i hear a fire lately

1364
00:55:08,470 --> 00:55:05,920
says dude you came out as the head of a

1365
00:55:10,390 --> 00:55:08,480
dod ufo program people are going to ask

1366
00:55:12,549 --> 00:55:10,400
questions and pick you apart you're a

1367
00:55:14,870 --> 00:55:12,559
big burly military guy so don't play the

1368
00:55:17,270 --> 00:55:14,880
victim maybe answer questions including

1369
00:55:18,829 --> 00:55:17,280
the timeline that is broken

1370
00:55:21,829 --> 00:55:18,839
people aren't against you they want

1371
00:55:24,069 --> 00:55:21,839
answers yeah i think that's very fair

1372
00:55:26,470 --> 00:55:24,079
stephen greenstreet says poor former

1373
00:55:29,190 --> 00:55:26,480
pentagon intelligence agent and current

1374
00:55:31,109 --> 00:55:29,200
dod contractor question mark

1375
00:55:32,950 --> 00:55:31,119
uses lawyer to threaten legal action

1376
00:55:35,910 --> 00:55:32,960
against u.s citizens who disagree with

1377
00:55:38,230 --> 00:55:35,920
them if this was about election results

1378
00:55:40,789 --> 00:55:38,240
or the china taiwan conflict it would be

1379
00:55:42,230 --> 00:55:40,799
a big deal but it's about ufos so it's

1380
00:55:44,069 --> 00:55:42,240
just stupid

1381
00:55:45,589 --> 00:55:44,079
uh it's a lot of people know stephen

1382
00:55:47,829 --> 00:55:45,599
greenstreet is not a big fan of

1383
00:55:49,589 --> 00:55:47,839
louisando

1384
00:55:53,109 --> 00:55:49,599
alien scientist says green street

1385
00:55:55,349 --> 00:55:53,119
doubles down on louis zondo and atip i

1386
00:55:57,430 --> 00:55:55,359
just want to know who the quintessential

1387
00:55:59,510 --> 00:55:57,440
theoretical physicist was who brought

1388
00:56:01,510 --> 00:55:59,520
lou into the program whatever the

1389
00:56:03,349 --> 00:56:01,520
program was in the first place that's

1390
00:56:05,750 --> 00:56:03,359
from alien scientist

1391
00:56:08,549 --> 00:56:05,760
stephen greenstreet also says there is

1392
00:56:11,430 --> 00:56:08,559
no evidence elizondo was the director of

1393
00:56:14,390 --> 00:56:11,440
an official pentagon program called atip

1394
00:56:16,710 --> 00:56:14,400
there is also no evidence an official

1395
00:56:19,670 --> 00:56:16,720
pentagon program called atip beyond just

1396
00:56:22,390 --> 00:56:19,680
a nickname for awesapp ever existed

1397
00:56:25,510 --> 00:56:22,400
and he offers his mini documentary as

1398
00:56:29,030 --> 00:56:27,349
tom mellett is one of the people who

1399
00:56:31,910 --> 00:56:29,040
were sending me

1400
00:56:34,309 --> 00:56:31,920
statements statements about uh

1401
00:56:36,390 --> 00:56:34,319
mcmurtry and some of the statements that

1402
00:56:38,230 --> 00:56:36,400
he's made in the past

1403
00:56:39,430 --> 00:56:38,240
uh

1404
00:56:41,190 --> 00:56:39,440
you know i

1405
00:56:43,190 --> 00:56:41,200
i don't know let's see them start

1406
00:56:44,710 --> 00:56:43,200
telling the truth about transsexualism

1407
00:56:47,109 --> 00:56:44,720
being a mental illness or about the

1408
00:56:48,950 --> 00:56:47,119
implication of iq disparities between

1409
00:56:50,870 --> 00:56:48,960
different racial groups

1410
00:56:53,990 --> 00:56:50,880
so this lawyer is very very

1411
00:56:54,710 --> 00:56:54,000
controversial apparently

1412
00:56:57,190 --> 00:56:54,720
and

1413
00:56:59,430 --> 00:56:57,200
you know it is what it is

1414
00:57:01,270 --> 00:56:59,440
uh rather be squidding uh from

1415
00:57:03,750 --> 00:57:01,280
unidentified celebrity review and by the

1416
00:57:05,349 --> 00:57:03,760
way good luck to those guys uh i know

1417
00:57:06,870 --> 00:57:05,359
maybe i shouldn't even be broadcasting

1418
00:57:09,270 --> 00:57:06,880
today because everybody's tuning in to

1419
00:57:10,789 --> 00:57:09,280
that big phone home three

1420
00:57:12,390 --> 00:57:10,799
and even though i wasn't invited i

1421
00:57:16,470 --> 00:57:12,400
support that effort

1422
00:57:18,710 --> 00:57:16,480
uh though i am somewhat of a bitter uh

1423
00:57:20,230 --> 00:57:18,720
person when it comes to the government i

1424
00:57:22,470 --> 00:57:20,240
i don't believe that writing a bunch of

1425
00:57:23,910 --> 00:57:22,480
letters to the senators is effective i

1426
00:57:25,430 --> 00:57:23,920
don't think they care

1427
00:57:27,030 --> 00:57:25,440
if you really want to get a senator's

1428
00:57:28,390 --> 00:57:27,040
attention you need a couple million

1429
00:57:31,190 --> 00:57:28,400
dollars that's how to get their

1430
00:57:33,750 --> 00:57:31,200
attention but good luck to them rather

1431
00:57:35,349 --> 00:57:33,760
be squidding says you're defending him

1432
00:57:39,910 --> 00:57:35,359
by reading the

1433
00:57:42,230 --> 00:57:39,920
complaint he wrote must have struck a

1434
00:57:43,829 --> 00:57:42,240
nerve thanks for speaking truth to power

1435
00:57:46,230 --> 00:57:43,839
blackfall

1436
00:57:48,390 --> 00:57:46,240
if the frivolous lawsuits happen i'll up

1437
00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:48,400
my patreon support and i'm sure i'm not

1438
00:57:52,069 --> 00:57:49,760
alone

1439
00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:52,079
then john greenwald says do you feel we

1440
00:57:56,710 --> 00:57:54,240
should be able to question the claims of

1441
00:57:58,950 --> 00:57:56,720
a former u s government employee using

1442
00:58:00,789 --> 00:57:58,960
as much evidence as we can improperly

1443
00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:00,799
labeling opinions

1444
00:58:04,710 --> 00:58:03,520
when they are me too

1445
00:58:08,069 --> 00:58:04,720
but some

1446
00:58:09,349 --> 00:58:08,079
rather label it defamation and retweet

1447
00:58:14,309 --> 00:58:09,359
their

1448
00:58:14,319 --> 00:58:17,829
yeah

1449
00:58:22,630 --> 00:58:20,309
area 503 who is of course the filmmaker

1450
00:58:24,950 --> 00:58:22,640
behind the film who's lou

1451
00:58:27,589 --> 00:58:24,960
uh louis lozando says he has tons of

1452
00:58:30,150 --> 00:58:27,599
documentation to support his claims then

1453
00:58:32,870 --> 00:58:30,160
holds up the harry reid death bed letter

1454
00:58:34,069 --> 00:58:32,880
that has been on his website for years

1455
00:58:35,829 --> 00:58:34,079
that's like claiming you're a

1456
00:58:38,390 --> 00:58:35,839
billionaire and then holding up a dollar

1457
00:58:40,069 --> 00:58:38,400
bill to prove it yeah this claim of it

1458
00:58:42,630 --> 00:58:40,079
being well documented there's one

1459
00:58:44,630 --> 00:58:42,640
document that's not well documented

1460
00:58:47,030 --> 00:58:44,640
if he had three documents saying that he

1461
00:58:48,390 --> 00:58:47,040
was the director of atip i may believe

1462
00:58:50,630 --> 00:58:48,400
that right

1463
00:58:52,549 --> 00:58:50,640
rather be squinting again chiming in

1464
00:58:54,710 --> 00:58:52,559
saying where's the documentation where's

1465
00:58:56,549 --> 00:58:54,720
the defamation or is this just more

1466
00:58:57,270 --> 00:58:56,559
claims without any evidence to back it

1467
00:58:59,349 --> 00:58:57,280
up

1468
00:59:01,750 --> 00:58:59,359
uh yeah so

1469
00:59:04,710 --> 00:59:01,760
i think that this is going to be a hot

1470
00:59:06,390 --> 00:59:04,720
issue going forward we'll take

1471
00:59:07,910 --> 00:59:06,400
some comments or questions from the live

1472
00:59:09,109 --> 00:59:07,920
chat otherwise i'm going to wrap it up

1473
00:59:10,870 --> 00:59:09,119
here and go

1474
00:59:15,270 --> 00:59:10,880
build a cabin that's what i'm supposed

1475
00:59:19,670 --> 00:59:17,510
yeah

1476
00:59:21,109 --> 00:59:19,680
and the sixth sense is kindly sharing

1477
00:59:24,630 --> 00:59:21,119
the who's lou

1478
00:59:27,670 --> 00:59:24,640
documentary uh you may wanna look into

1479
00:59:28,549 --> 00:59:27,680
that if you're interested in whether

1480
00:59:31,109 --> 00:59:28,559
uh

1481
00:59:32,549 --> 00:59:31,119
lou's claims are accurate and i also i

1482
00:59:33,510 --> 00:59:32,559
highly recommend

1483
00:59:35,349 --> 00:59:33,520
uh

1484
00:59:38,230 --> 00:59:35,359
oh there we go i was able to make the

1485
00:59:40,950 --> 00:59:38,240
chat bigger i was able to

1486
00:59:43,430 --> 00:59:40,960
uh i would also highly recommend stephen

1487
00:59:46,150 --> 00:59:43,440
green street's basement office episode

1488
00:59:48,789 --> 00:59:46,160
where he breaks down

1489
00:59:50,710 --> 00:59:48,799
a lot of information that would seem to

1490
00:59:52,870 --> 00:59:50,720
indicate that there is something not

1491
00:59:54,150 --> 00:59:52,880
right about luella's ondo's story and

1492
00:59:56,950 --> 00:59:54,160
that his

1493
01:00:02,630 --> 00:59:56,960
public statements don't match the facts

1494
01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:08,870
calling it the tip

1495
01:00:15,670 --> 01:00:11,190
i have no doubt lou worked

1496
01:00:17,829 --> 01:00:15,680
mushroom caps hard nicknamed atip

1497
01:00:19,750 --> 01:00:17,839
yes and b baker is saying that john

1498
01:00:22,710 --> 01:00:19,760
greenwald is by far the most credible

1499
01:00:24,390 --> 01:00:22,720
person in the ufo community

1500
01:00:26,309 --> 01:00:24,400
uh

1501
01:00:29,109 --> 01:00:26,319
and an incredible amount of respect for

1502
01:00:30,950 --> 01:00:29,119
him lou alzado is a scumbag counter

1503
01:00:33,190 --> 01:00:30,960
intel agent yeah people don't like

1504
01:00:34,549 --> 01:00:33,200
former government people by the way

1505
01:00:36,309 --> 01:00:34,559
everybody's free to express their

1506
01:00:38,069 --> 01:00:36,319
opinion here but please try to steer

1507
01:00:40,069 --> 01:00:38,079
away from personal attacks or ad hoc

1508
01:00:42,390 --> 01:00:40,079
minimum attacks

1509
01:00:44,390 --> 01:00:42,400
uh spooky says follow john for years

1510
01:00:46,309 --> 01:00:44,400
he's the real deal well i'm glad that we

1511
01:00:47,910 --> 01:00:46,319
could lend our support to him i support

1512
01:00:50,950 --> 01:00:47,920
john and his right

1513
01:00:54,150 --> 01:00:50,960
i i watched that entire thing and and i

1514
01:00:56,150 --> 01:00:54,160
didn't find anything that he did to be

1515
01:00:58,710 --> 01:00:56,160
really the wrong thing to do either

1516
01:01:01,030 --> 01:00:58,720
morally ethically or legally i think

1517
01:01:02,549 --> 01:01:01,040
he's doing his job it's it's a it's

1518
01:01:05,510 --> 01:01:02,559
somebody

1519
01:01:07,430 --> 01:01:05,520
you know listen it's his job to dig and

1520
01:01:12,470 --> 01:01:07,440
it's his job

1521
01:01:17,510 --> 01:01:15,510
since when are we especially

1522
01:01:19,589 --> 01:01:17,520
people here in the ufo community just

1523
01:01:21,190 --> 01:01:19,599
supposed to

1524
01:01:23,349 --> 01:01:21,200
you know

1525
01:01:25,510 --> 01:01:23,359
take what a government employee tells us

1526
01:01:28,630 --> 01:01:25,520
as truth we're supposed to question

1527
01:01:30,630 --> 01:01:28,640
these people and and for anybody

1528
01:01:32,230 --> 01:01:30,640
you know look too that's another point

1529
01:01:33,910 --> 01:01:32,240
that i wanted to make there

1530
01:01:36,069 --> 01:01:33,920
there is

1531
01:01:38,150 --> 01:01:36,079
a cult-like group of

1532
01:01:39,030 --> 01:01:38,160
followers who are right now cheering

1533
01:01:40,470 --> 01:01:39,040
that

1534
01:01:43,270 --> 01:01:40,480
threatening

1535
01:01:45,270 --> 01:01:43,280
john greenwald with the lawyer right

1536
01:01:47,829 --> 01:01:45,280
but as in this

1537
01:01:49,910 --> 01:01:47,839
case just as in the case of uh the

1538
01:01:51,109 --> 01:01:49,920
trump raider on mar-a-lago you know you

1539
01:01:52,549 --> 01:01:51,119
have to

1540
01:01:53,990 --> 01:01:52,559
remember that if they can do that to

1541
01:01:55,109 --> 01:01:54,000
people you

1542
01:01:55,910 --> 01:01:55,119
don't like

1543
01:01:56,950 --> 01:01:55,920
right

1544
01:01:58,789 --> 01:01:56,960
they

1545
01:02:00,230 --> 01:01:58,799
can do it to people you like and the

1546
01:02:01,270 --> 01:02:00,240
same thing can

1547
01:02:03,069 --> 01:02:01,280
happen so

1548
01:02:07,910 --> 01:02:03,079
you know i think we have to be very

1549
01:02:11,829 --> 01:02:09,750
wow i didn't know that happened

1550
01:02:13,670 --> 01:02:11,839
stephen i just wanted to know

1551
01:02:15,910 --> 01:02:13,680
that before the show ends that sid rich

1552
01:02:17,990 --> 01:02:15,920
gave ale

1553
01:02:20,230 --> 01:02:18,000
10 memberships to your channel today

1554
01:02:22,150 --> 01:02:20,240
congrats to your new members and to

1555
01:02:23,829 --> 01:02:22,160
stephen wow sid that's so generous of

1556
01:02:25,109 --> 01:02:23,839
you thank you so much i can't believe

1557
01:02:27,589 --> 01:02:25,119
you did that

1558
01:02:29,589 --> 01:02:27,599
so we've got 10 new channel members

1559
01:02:31,109 --> 01:02:29,599
courtesy of sibich he sponsored 10 new

1560
01:02:33,510 --> 01:02:31,119
channel members wow

1561
01:02:35,829 --> 01:02:33,520
great great thing to do sid [\h__\h] thank

1562
01:02:37,349 --> 01:02:35,839
you for your kindness your generosity

1563
01:02:39,109 --> 01:02:37,359
and your support

1564
01:02:41,430 --> 01:02:39,119
uh lord ludacris

1565
01:02:43,270 --> 01:02:41,440
says the people attacking john

1566
01:02:45,270 --> 01:02:43,280
are crazy yeah

1567
01:02:49,829 --> 01:02:45,280
um

1568
01:02:51,430 --> 01:02:49,839
it's really a problem you know

1569
01:02:55,990 --> 01:02:51,440
losing audio

1570
01:02:59,190 --> 01:02:57,990
it's happened on and off yeah you guys

1571
01:03:01,430 --> 01:02:59,200
should be aware

1572
01:03:03,589 --> 01:03:01,440
that i am here at the cabin and there is

1573
01:03:04,549 --> 01:03:03,599
a wonky audio so you know what we're

1574
01:03:08,710 --> 01:03:04,559
going to do

1575
01:03:10,150 --> 01:03:08,720
we're going to wrap things up here

1576
01:03:11,990 --> 01:03:10,160
mark says

1577
01:03:13,029 --> 01:03:12,000
we're going to see some interesting

1578
01:03:15,430 --> 01:03:13,039
stuff

1579
01:03:18,309 --> 01:03:15,440
i'm making popcorn with lots of homemade

1580
01:03:23,029 --> 01:03:18,319
butter this is going to get good

1581
01:03:24,549 --> 01:03:23,039
who has uh bigger members uh

1582
01:03:28,470 --> 01:03:24,559
we'll see lose

1583
01:03:30,630 --> 01:03:28,480
we will see my bet is lou's lawyer sorry

1584
01:03:38,549 --> 01:03:30,640
yeah

1585
01:03:43,670 --> 01:03:41,029
oh i'm sorry for the audio issues it's

1586
01:03:45,589 --> 01:03:43,680
probably due to our wonky connection for

1587
01:03:47,670 --> 01:03:45,599
those that aren't aware i'm broadcasting

1588
01:03:49,990 --> 01:03:47,680
live from my apocalypse cabin which is

1589
01:03:52,950 --> 01:03:50,000
in the middle of nowhere and there is a

1590
01:03:54,710 --> 01:03:52,960
mile long cable behind the cabin going

1591
01:03:55,990 --> 01:03:54,720
to the nearest

1592
01:03:58,309 --> 01:03:56,000
internet

1593
01:04:00,789 --> 01:03:58,319
mark says john greenwald is a hero and i

1594
01:04:03,589 --> 01:04:00,799
agree with that and you know look this

1595
01:04:05,750 --> 01:04:03,599
kid he was a 14 year old kid

1596
01:04:07,829 --> 01:04:05,760
starting to challenge the government you

1597
01:04:10,309 --> 01:04:07,839
got to have respect for that guy

1598
01:04:12,950 --> 01:04:10,319
but back to my point

1599
01:04:15,430 --> 01:04:12,960
if we allow

1600
01:04:17,750 --> 01:04:15,440
people that are

1601
01:04:21,029 --> 01:04:17,760
questioning people's stories to be

1602
01:04:23,510 --> 01:04:21,039
threatened with lawsuits then anybody it

1603
01:04:26,150 --> 01:04:23,520
can happen to anybody and by the way i

1604
01:04:28,230 --> 01:04:26,160
do want to say that i don't think i

1605
01:04:31,029 --> 01:04:28,240
think that some people have treated lou

1606
01:04:33,430 --> 01:04:31,039
elizondo unfairly but i certainly don't

1607
01:04:37,430 --> 01:04:33,440
would never include john or stephen

1608
01:04:39,670 --> 01:04:37,440
greenstreet even or me in in that in in

1609
01:04:42,390 --> 01:04:39,680
that category there are some people who

1610
01:04:45,670 --> 01:04:42,400
are just like lose a liar and

1611
01:04:47,270 --> 01:04:45,680
a cia agent and this is all psyop and

1612
01:04:49,190 --> 01:04:47,280
lou lied about everything i don't think

1613
01:04:52,069 --> 01:04:49,200
he lied about everything i think he over

1614
01:04:53,430 --> 01:04:52,079
embellished and uh maybe

1615
01:04:54,789 --> 01:04:53,440
uh

1616
01:04:55,990 --> 01:04:54,799
you know

1617
01:04:59,510 --> 01:04:56,000
he

1618
01:05:01,109 --> 01:04:59,520
overstated his involvement in in ufos

1619
01:05:02,309 --> 01:05:01,119
while he worked for the pentagon in

1620
01:05:04,950 --> 01:05:02,319
order to

1621
01:05:06,950 --> 01:05:04,960
make some money i mean we know that this

1622
01:05:09,109 --> 01:05:06,960
uh even the television show he was on

1623
01:05:12,069 --> 01:05:09,119
the opening has factually inaccurate

1624
01:05:14,630 --> 01:05:12,079
statements in it we can we can say that

1625
01:05:16,549 --> 01:05:14,640
now but at the time we didn't nobody

1626
01:05:17,910 --> 01:05:16,559
knew that that was factually inaccurate

1627
01:05:19,510 --> 01:05:17,920
just like

1628
01:05:21,190 --> 01:05:19,520
i wish i had it with me somebody's

1629
01:05:23,190 --> 01:05:21,200
asking where the loo mask is i wish i

1630
01:05:24,549 --> 01:05:23,200
had it with me it's at home in the

1631
01:05:25,750 --> 01:05:24,559
studio

1632
01:05:28,069 --> 01:05:25,760
you know

1633
01:05:31,029 --> 01:05:28,079
somebody gave inaccurate information to

1634
01:05:32,950 --> 01:05:31,039
the to the new york times and since lou

1635
01:05:34,470 --> 01:05:32,960
was the major source for that story i

1636
01:05:36,789 --> 01:05:34,480
would have to believe it would it was

1637
01:05:38,309 --> 01:05:36,799
him who gave inaccurate information to

1638
01:05:39,750 --> 01:05:38,319
the reporters and started this whole

1639
01:05:41,670 --> 01:05:39,760
media frenzy

1640
01:05:43,430 --> 01:05:41,680
right

1641
01:05:45,990 --> 01:05:43,440
uh

1642
01:05:47,510 --> 01:05:46,000
so listen this is all i got for you i

1643
01:05:48,630 --> 01:05:47,520
thought it important enough and i want

1644
01:05:50,390 --> 01:05:48,640
to be sure

1645
01:05:52,710 --> 01:05:50,400
go and express your

1646
01:05:53,670 --> 01:05:52,720
support for john from the from the black

1647
01:05:55,349 --> 01:05:53,680
vault

1648
01:05:57,829 --> 01:05:55,359
you know he does good work and he

1649
01:06:01,750 --> 01:05:57,839
deserves better than this he really does

1650
01:06:04,710 --> 01:06:01,760
uh you know like i said if if lou had

1651
01:06:07,029 --> 01:06:04,720
sicked a lawyer on me i would go yeah i

1652
01:06:08,710 --> 01:06:07,039
uh i'm an [\h__\h] i say a lot of stupid

1653
01:06:09,589 --> 01:06:08,720
things you know

1654
01:06:13,430 --> 01:06:09,599
but

1655
01:06:15,510 --> 01:06:13,440
not john john really gets is so factual

1656
01:06:17,029 --> 01:06:15,520
and calm and and

1657
01:06:18,950 --> 01:06:17,039
matter of fact

1658
01:06:21,270 --> 01:06:18,960
that i was shocked that it was him you

1659
01:06:23,510 --> 01:06:21,280
know somebody somebody texted me and

1660
01:06:25,510 --> 01:06:23,520
said lou elizondo was threatening

1661
01:06:26,950 --> 01:06:25,520
journalists with a lawyer on twitter and

1662
01:06:28,549 --> 01:06:26,960
then they sent me the link and then it

1663
01:06:31,029 --> 01:06:28,559
went

1664
01:06:33,109 --> 01:06:31,039
what what journalists right

1665
01:06:36,789 --> 01:06:33,119
and then when i heard it was john i was

1666
01:06:39,270 --> 01:06:36,799
just shocked i was like oh my gosh right

1667
01:06:47,190 --> 01:06:41,670
yeah

1668
01:06:48,789 --> 01:06:47,200
right

1669
01:06:51,430 --> 01:06:48,799
yes he did say he wanted to destroy

1670
01:06:53,109 --> 01:06:51,440
ufology i guess it's working

1671
01:06:55,349 --> 01:06:53,119
uh and i can't

1672
01:06:57,270 --> 01:06:55,359
i i i don't know what else to say about

1673
01:06:59,589 --> 01:06:57,280
this situation and i'm sorry for the

1674
01:07:01,190 --> 01:06:59,599
audio issues it really must be the wonky

1675
01:07:03,349 --> 01:07:01,200
internet connection so

1676
01:07:04,710 --> 01:07:03,359
we're gonna uh we're gonna

1677
01:07:06,630 --> 01:07:04,720
spooky

1678
01:07:08,870 --> 01:07:06,640
who always makes me work

1679
01:07:11,109 --> 01:07:08,880
right it's the weekend spooky and i'm

1680
01:07:14,230 --> 01:07:11,119
supposed to be on vacation uh we're

1681
01:07:16,150 --> 01:07:14,240
building a cabin but yes i believe uh

1682
01:07:18,150 --> 01:07:16,160
listen here's what i'll say i'm not sure

1683
01:07:19,670 --> 01:07:18,160
if my children and my wife are coming

1684
01:07:21,430 --> 01:07:19,680
here tonight if they're not there will

1685
01:07:24,150 --> 01:07:21,440
be another show today

1686
01:07:27,349 --> 01:07:24,160
we we have an interesting piece on ufos

1687
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and uh the bubble the echo chamber and

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we can do that later this evening if

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01:07:40,470 --> 01:07:38,230
mark said my lawyer

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01:07:42,390 --> 01:07:40,480
suggested i participate cautiously in

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01:07:45,109 --> 01:07:42,400
discussion that

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uh lawyer's client and i'm a nobody yeah

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01:07:48,470 --> 01:07:46,000
well

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that listen here's what i will say uh

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01:07:53,430 --> 01:07:50,480
points for louis elizondo

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01:07:56,470 --> 01:07:53,440
that lawyer that he hired is an absolute

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01:07:59,910 --> 01:07:56,480
bulldog of a lawyer like if i

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01:08:03,510 --> 01:07:59,920
had somebody talking smack on me or

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01:08:06,069 --> 01:08:03,520
defaming me or slandering me uh that guy

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01:08:07,910 --> 01:08:06,079
might be on my list to hire to back off

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01:08:08,950 --> 01:08:07,920
my critics right

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01:08:10,710 --> 01:08:08,960
uh

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that's that guy's a hell of a lawyer

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01:08:14,230 --> 01:08:12,000
that's all i'm going to say you can look

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01:08:16,550 --> 01:08:14,240
into his history i did a little bit

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01:08:19,269 --> 01:08:16,560
and and what i said to myself is i got

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01:08:21,669 --> 01:08:19,279
to be a lot more careful when discussing

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01:08:23,269 --> 01:08:21,679
uh lou elizondo based on this bulldog

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01:08:25,349 --> 01:08:23,279
lawyer that he has

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01:08:27,269 --> 01:08:25,359
and by the way i've been threatened by a

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lot of

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01:08:33,189 --> 01:08:31,199
of them were jokes

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01:08:35,510 --> 01:08:33,199
if i got a letter from that guy

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i would take it very very seriously and

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hire an attorney right away i wouldn't

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even talk to him

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um you know so there are some levels to

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this

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small town

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lawyer that doesn't have you know

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a lot of experience or whatever uh this

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01:09:00,470 --> 01:08:57,359
guy is a bulldog that's what i'll say

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01:09:02,390 --> 01:09:00,480
this guy is a bulldog he is a hell of an

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01:09:05,269 --> 01:09:02,400
attack dog lawyer

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01:09:07,269 --> 01:09:05,279
um and maybe that's what louisando wants

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01:09:09,349 --> 01:09:07,279
is he wants a hell of a bulldog to back

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01:09:10,789 --> 01:09:09,359
off the people that he believes are

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01:09:16,470 --> 01:09:10,799
defaming him

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yes and uh somebody is suggesting this

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01:09:22,870 --> 01:09:21,120
the space exposure is suggesting that

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01:09:25,189 --> 01:09:22,880
bulldog lawyer is simply using his

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reputation to intimidate

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yeah uh

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maybe you know but again i want to be

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01:09:33,990 --> 01:09:32,319
very clear in that if somebody is making

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01:09:37,590 --> 01:09:34,000
factually inaccurate statements about

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lou elizondo he has a right to uh

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01:09:41,030 --> 01:09:39,359
execute legal action against him and he

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01:09:43,430 --> 01:09:41,040
has a right to hire a bulldog attorney

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and defend his reputation the problem

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01:09:48,309 --> 01:09:46,080
here is that lou elizondo's own

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01:09:50,070 --> 01:09:48,319
statements contradict you know his

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01:09:52,229 --> 01:09:50,080
previous statements contradict his other

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01:09:55,750 --> 01:09:52,239
statements and the pentagon statements

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01:09:56,950 --> 01:09:55,760
contradict what he said and uh you know

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01:09:58,950 --> 01:09:56,960
he

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01:10:02,229 --> 01:09:58,960
this whole thing is so murky and

1748
01:10:04,709 --> 01:10:02,239
problematic it's like a it's like a hall

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01:10:06,870 --> 01:10:04,719
it's like a what's that one phrase that

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01:10:10,470 --> 01:10:06,880
i do like from linda moulton hale it is

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01:10:13,270 --> 01:10:10,480
a hall of mirrors with a quicksand floor

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01:10:16,229 --> 01:10:13,280
that's what this situation is it's smoke

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01:10:17,830 --> 01:10:16,239
it's mirrors it's obfuscation it's

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01:10:20,790 --> 01:10:17,840
misdirection

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01:10:22,950 --> 01:10:20,800
did he really run a program

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01:10:24,470 --> 01:10:22,960
did he not run a program did it have

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01:10:26,470 --> 01:10:24,480
twenty million two million dollars in

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01:10:27,910 --> 01:10:26,480
funding did it not

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01:10:29,350 --> 01:10:27,920
were they were they

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01:10:32,310 --> 01:10:29,360
was that twenty two million dollar

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01:10:34,870 --> 01:10:32,320
programs really investigating werewolves

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01:10:36,630 --> 01:10:34,880
you know uh was that information that

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01:10:38,470 --> 01:10:36,640
they were investigating werewolves as

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01:10:41,189 --> 01:10:38,480
well as ufos left out of the new york

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01:10:42,790 --> 01:10:41,199
times article on purpose

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01:10:45,030 --> 01:10:42,800
this whole thing is

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01:10:47,189 --> 01:10:45,040
a smoke and mirrors mess

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01:10:50,310 --> 01:10:47,199
and you know i would much prefer to

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01:10:52,790 --> 01:10:50,320
never speak about lou elizondo again

1770
01:10:54,870 --> 01:10:52,800
in fact i'd be happy if he just you know

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01:10:57,270 --> 01:10:54,880
rode off into the sunset and wasn't

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01:10:58,790 --> 01:10:57,280
around anymore uh

1773
01:11:01,270 --> 01:10:58,800
and and that's another thing this

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01:11:03,750 --> 01:11:01,280
cult-like atmosphere around him these

1775
01:11:06,709 --> 01:11:03,760
people they just ignore facts right they

1776
01:11:09,910 --> 01:11:06,719
just ignore the facts you know and and

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01:11:11,669 --> 01:11:09,920
they viciously viciously attack anybody

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01:11:13,510 --> 01:11:11,679
uh

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01:11:15,350 --> 01:11:13,520
they viciously attack anybody that

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01:11:17,430 --> 01:11:15,360
doesn't speak positively about lou

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01:11:18,470 --> 01:11:17,440
elizondo and i find that very very

1782
01:11:22,070 --> 01:11:18,480
troubling

1783
01:11:24,149 --> 01:11:22,080
louis lozando used sock puppet accounts

1784
01:11:26,950 --> 01:11:24,159
to argue with his critics why is a grown

1785
01:11:29,510 --> 01:11:26,960
man using fake accounts i don't know

1786
01:11:31,590 --> 01:11:29,520
i i just all like i said all this is

1787
01:11:33,189 --> 01:11:31,600
very murky it's a bunch of smoke and

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01:11:36,310 --> 01:11:33,199
mirrors and that's what you get into

1789
01:11:38,390 --> 01:11:36,320
when you get into intelligence agents it

1790
01:11:41,270 --> 01:11:38,400
they're trained

1791
01:11:44,310 --> 01:11:41,280
to do this stuff you know

1792
01:11:47,270 --> 01:11:44,320
to muddy the waters right

1793
01:11:49,590 --> 01:11:47,280
and and the water the waters with louis

1794
01:11:51,990 --> 01:11:49,600
zondo have gotten so muddy that even

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01:11:54,229 --> 01:11:52,000
professional journalists don't know how

1796
01:11:56,390 --> 01:11:54,239
to report on him did he did he run that

1797
01:11:59,189 --> 01:11:56,400
program that he said he read or was

1798
01:12:00,790 --> 01:11:59,199
there no program was it funded or wasn't

1799
01:12:02,550 --> 01:12:00,800
it funded

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01:12:05,189 --> 01:12:02,560
why is the pentagon saying he had no

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01:12:06,709 --> 01:12:05,199
assigned responsibilities but then he

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01:12:10,149 --> 01:12:06,719
all but admitted he had no assigned

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01:12:12,149 --> 01:12:10,159
responsibilities and it like i said

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01:12:14,950 --> 01:12:12,159
you know i can say that i i

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01:12:16,790 --> 01:12:14,960
i run a program i could just make up a

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01:12:19,750 --> 01:12:16,800
program and say i'm the director of it

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01:12:21,669 --> 01:12:19,760
doesn't mean it's a real program or that

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01:12:24,229 --> 01:12:21,679
people should respect me for running my

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01:12:26,470 --> 01:12:24,239
imaginary program none of this makes any

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01:12:28,630 --> 01:12:26,480
sense i i am

1811
01:12:31,430 --> 01:12:28,640
up to my eyeballs in conflicting

1812
01:12:34,310 --> 01:12:31,440
statements about lou elizondo but i'm i

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01:12:36,470 --> 01:12:34,320
will say this i i am going to

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01:12:38,790 --> 01:12:36,480
make it a point

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01:12:39,750 --> 01:12:38,800
not just because of the bulldog lawyer

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01:12:42,229 --> 01:12:39,760
uh

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01:12:43,510 --> 01:12:42,239
but i have thought what if i've been

1818
01:12:45,669 --> 01:12:43,520
unfair

1819
01:12:48,870 --> 01:12:45,679
to him to louis elizondo

1820
01:12:52,310 --> 01:12:48,880
what if i have not been fair enough

1821
01:12:54,310 --> 01:12:52,320
you know i think i have but i'm gonna

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01:12:56,790 --> 01:12:54,320
make it a point to do

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01:12:58,149 --> 01:12:56,800
an extra effort to be fairer to lou

1824
01:13:00,390 --> 01:12:58,159
elizondo

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01:13:01,910 --> 01:13:00,400
and um i'm gonna reach out to him for an

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01:13:03,910 --> 01:13:01,920
interview for the hundredth time do i

1827
01:13:04,950 --> 01:13:03,920
think he's gonna come here no because he

1828
01:13:06,790 --> 01:13:04,960
knows i'm going to ask him about

1829
01:13:08,390 --> 01:13:06,800
guantanamo bay and i'm going to ask him

1830
01:13:09,830 --> 01:13:08,400
about what contractor he works for i'm

1831
01:13:11,430 --> 01:13:09,840
going to ask him if it was legal or

1832
01:13:14,709 --> 01:13:11,440
ethical for him to be involved in this

1833
01:13:16,390 --> 01:13:14,719
situation whereby three videos somehow

1834
01:13:18,470 --> 01:13:16,400
made their made its way out of the

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01:13:20,950 --> 01:13:18,480
pentagon and then he profited from those

1836
01:13:22,390 --> 01:13:20,960
three videos for five years now

1837
01:13:24,870 --> 01:13:22,400
and he's the guy who filled out the

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01:13:27,110 --> 01:13:24,880
forms you know i have a lot of questions

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01:13:27,990 --> 01:13:27,120
that i don't think he wants to answer

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01:13:32,390 --> 01:13:28,000
uh

1841
01:13:34,790 --> 01:13:32,400
for sure well let's hope it's him

1842
01:13:36,950 --> 01:13:34,800
listening and not the bulldog lawyer who

1843
01:13:38,550 --> 01:13:36,960
may come after me you know i got enough

1844
01:13:41,189 --> 01:13:38,560
problems and i don't need a lawyer like

1845
01:13:43,510 --> 01:13:41,199
that on my ass that's for sure and and

1846
01:13:45,590 --> 01:13:43,520
again i just want to say that that guy

1847
01:13:47,590 --> 01:13:45,600
is a hell of a lawyer

1848
01:13:50,870 --> 01:13:47,600
so one thing i will say is that

1849
01:13:52,870 --> 01:13:50,880
louisando is very smart uh he's very

1850
01:13:55,030 --> 01:13:52,880
intelligent man if you're gonna have to

1851
01:13:58,830 --> 01:13:55,040
have an attack dog lawyer get a good one

1852
01:14:04,550 --> 01:14:02,149
um oh here we have some of the

1853
01:14:06,630 --> 01:14:04,560
clearly what

1854
01:14:09,350 --> 01:14:06,640
why is everyone still confused about

1855
01:14:11,189 --> 01:14:09,360
things uh maybe because the pentagon

1856
01:14:12,790 --> 01:14:11,199
said he had no assigned responsibilities

1857
01:14:15,430 --> 01:14:12,800
around ufos

1858
01:14:17,830 --> 01:14:15,440
maybe because the pentagon said that he

1859
01:14:19,270 --> 01:14:17,840
didn't he was not the director of a

1860
01:14:23,270 --> 01:14:19,280
program

1861
01:14:25,990 --> 01:14:23,280
was an activity

1862
01:14:27,430 --> 01:14:26,000
and maybe because somebody lied to the

1863
01:14:29,189 --> 01:14:27,440
new york times

1864
01:14:31,270 --> 01:14:29,199
and said that they ran a 22 million

1865
01:14:33,030 --> 01:14:31,280
dollar ufo program

1866
01:14:35,750 --> 01:14:33,040
that's not the case

1867
01:14:36,790 --> 01:14:35,760
the the facts don't line up with that

1868
01:14:38,470 --> 01:14:36,800
right

1869
01:14:39,910 --> 01:14:38,480
maybe people are still confused because

1870
01:14:43,110 --> 01:14:39,920
little alexander keeps making

1871
01:14:45,910 --> 01:14:43,120
conflicting statements uh it wasn't long

1872
01:14:47,830 --> 01:14:45,920
ago that uh apparently people stopped

1873
01:14:49,830 --> 01:14:47,840
calling him the director of attempt and

1874
01:14:51,830 --> 01:14:49,840
started calling him the pentagon uap

1875
01:14:53,669 --> 01:14:51,840
portfolio manager

1876
01:14:55,830 --> 01:14:53,679
and that was for a while now the last

1877
01:14:57,830 --> 01:14:55,840
couple of months and now we're back to

1878
01:15:00,229 --> 01:14:57,840
him saying that he was the director of a

1879
01:15:01,830 --> 01:15:00,239
tip not the pentagon ufo portfolio

1880
01:15:08,910 --> 01:15:01,840
manager i don't understand any of this

1881
01:15:08,920 --> 01:15:18,709
[Music]

1882
01:15:22,550 --> 01:15:20,950
work as uap portfolio manager yeah

1883
01:15:29,830 --> 01:15:22,560
and you might be portfolio managers

1884
01:15:33,350 --> 01:15:31,270
his story didn't work

1885
01:15:34,229 --> 01:15:33,360
you know

1886
01:15:35,669 --> 01:15:34,239
uh

1887
01:15:37,189 --> 01:15:35,679
yeah but then i have an apocalypse camp

1888
01:15:39,030 --> 01:15:37,199
into his

1889
01:15:41,030 --> 01:15:39,040
ufo john doe for sure but then i have a

1890
01:15:42,709 --> 01:15:41,040
cabin so

1891
01:15:44,550 --> 01:15:42,719
look friends that's all we got for you

1892
01:15:45,990 --> 01:15:44,560
uh we'll call a short one

1893
01:15:47,750 --> 01:15:46,000
today i'm glad i was able to come here

1894
01:15:48,950 --> 01:15:47,760
and certainly i

1895
01:15:50,709 --> 01:15:48,960
i want to be sure that everybody

1896
01:15:53,750 --> 01:15:50,719
understands that i give my full support

1897
01:15:55,030 --> 01:15:53,760
to uh john from the black bolt and by

1898
01:15:55,990 --> 01:15:55,040
the way should he happen to be sued by

1899
01:15:58,070 --> 01:15:56,000
this

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01:15:59,910 --> 01:15:58,080
lawyer i will give as hefty a donation

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01:16:01,750 --> 01:15:59,920
that i can to john from the black false

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01:16:06,149 --> 01:16:01,760
legal

1903
01:16:08,070 --> 01:16:06,159
the sound is bad i apologize for that

1904
01:16:09,669 --> 01:16:08,080
it's probably due to my wonky internet

1905
01:16:11,510 --> 01:16:09,679
connection so

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01:16:14,630 --> 01:16:11,520
well we're going to bounce on out of

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01:16:19,669 --> 01:16:17,750
we may be returning later tonight after

1908
01:16:22,630 --> 01:16:19,679
all their other ufo show hosts who've

1909
01:16:23,830 --> 01:16:22,640
decided that that i'm lazy or i don't

1910
01:16:25,910 --> 01:16:23,840
work hard enough because i don't do

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01:16:27,910 --> 01:16:25,920
enough shows we only do shows if we have

1912
01:16:30,470 --> 01:16:27,920
something worthwhile to talk about just

1913
01:16:33,030 --> 01:16:30,480
for your own information i don't just

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01:16:36,310 --> 01:16:33,040
ramble every day about nothing

1915
01:16:37,910 --> 01:16:36,320
uh to to grip super chats or whatever

1916
01:16:38,870 --> 01:16:37,920
but it is what it is

1917
01:16:41,110 --> 01:16:38,880
um

1918
01:16:43,350 --> 01:16:41,120
so that's all i got for you uh i do want

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01:16:44,950 --> 01:16:43,360
to thank rather be squidding because i

1920
01:16:47,350 --> 01:16:44,960
stole that clip from him and i want to

1921
01:16:48,709 --> 01:16:47,360
thank louisando because i stole that

1922
01:16:49,669 --> 01:16:48,719
clip from

1923
01:16:51,350 --> 01:16:49,679
him talking about being a

1924
01:16:52,470 --> 01:16:51,360
counterintelligence agent and i also

1925
01:16:54,790 --> 01:16:52,480
want to thank

1926
01:16:56,630 --> 01:16:54,800
um dark journalists because i stole a

1927
01:16:58,390 --> 01:16:56,640
clip he really explains what

1928
01:17:00,790 --> 01:16:58,400
counterintelligence officers do better

1929
01:17:02,950 --> 01:17:00,800
than i ever could and so we stole a clip

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01:17:04,870 --> 01:17:02,960
from him as well we certainly want to

1931
01:17:06,310 --> 01:17:04,880
thank spooky and sixth sense and b baker

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01:17:08,470 --> 01:17:06,320
and the others who helped make this show

1933
01:17:10,229 --> 01:17:08,480
possible and certainly thank all you

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01:17:12,070 --> 01:17:10,239
kind and generous benefactors there's

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01:17:13,750 --> 01:17:12,080
instructions on how to help us if you're

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01:17:16,790 --> 01:17:13,760
feeling generous in the description of

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01:17:19,430 --> 01:17:16,800
the video also uh how to uh go subscribe

1938
01:17:20,870 --> 01:17:19,440
to spooky's uh show as well

1939
01:17:22,310 --> 01:17:20,880
all right so that's all we got for you

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01:17:25,030 --> 01:17:22,320
friends until next time my name is

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01:17:27,590 --> 01:17:25,040
stephen campion reminding you that

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01:17:29,990 --> 01:17:27,600
sometimes the truth is hard to get to

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01:17:34,130 --> 01:17:30,000
but the journey is its own reward good

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01:17:34,140 --> 01:18:45,430
[Music]

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so

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[Music]

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[Applause]